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16 May 2011, 4:45 pm

I got the results of the neuropsychological tests today. We don't get any numbers or charts, but I've attempted to translate it anyway.

WAIS-III (1, 3-9, 13)
information: a bit above average range
- similarities: a bit above average range
comprehension: upper limit of average
arithmetic: average
digit span: lower limit of average
- letter-number sequencing: lower limit of average
picture completion: upper limit of average
block design: upper limit of average
matrix reasoning: average
hand-eye coordination (probably digit symbol-coding): average
focusing and visual scanning (probably symbol search): slightly slower than average

WMS-III (2, 12, 6, 7, 16, 17)
auditory memory: clearly below average
visual memory: very good
working memory: average, subject to distractibility

verbal fluency: lower-than-expected
Boston naming test: good
Stroop test: significant slowing (204 seconds when the normal is 98 )
Rey-Osterrieth complex figure: some specific inaccuracies

While mental arithmetic and matrix reasoning were in the average range, the neuropsychologist thought they could and should have been better. Two tests showed that I was able to flexibly organize my action. Verbal fluency and attention were below average just like in the previous test.

The conclusion was that inattentiveness is my main problem. I have an appointment with a neurologist in two weeks. Let's see what he has to say about it :)


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16 May 2011, 5:48 pm

Your scores are reasonably consistent. Mine, for example, range from several SDs (attention is in the .13 %tile) below average to 4 SDs above. I'm all over the place.



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16 May 2011, 11:06 pm

These scores are very interesting in that it seems your testing was fairly comprehensive. Do you know how you went about getting this neuropsychological testing done? I would be pretty interested in getting something like this done, but I'm hesitant to pay 1000's for a private neuropsychologist and I'm trying to get an autism evaluation through my university. It'd be pretty nice if it was as detailed as this!

So, was the neuropsychologist able to nullify/"rule out" or otherwise cancel your previous AS diagnosis and your only problem is inattentiveness? Or, was this just to say you likely have inattentiveness in addition to whatever pre-existing conditions you have like AS?

(Essentially, I'm curious, do you definitely know you have or don't have AS?)



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17 May 2011, 1:07 pm

swbluto wrote:
These scores are very interesting in that it seems your testing was fairly comprehensive. Do you know how you went about getting this neuropsychological testing done? I would be pretty interested in getting something like this done, but I'm hesitant to pay 1000's for a private neuropsychologist and I'm trying to get an autism evaluation through my university. It'd be pretty nice if it was as detailed as this!

I first saw a GP at a private clinic. They had a shortage of specialists, plus it's cheaper. I was mainly concerned with muscle weakness and other symptoms, but for various reasons I also asked for a neuropsychological re-evaluation. I was referred to a neurologist. The waiting time was 6 months. He seemed pretty competent, unlike the previous one that practically threw me out of the office. The neurologist ordered the tests and they were done at a local hospital, so they cost me only 15€.

I've mentioned this before, but I once asked a psychiatrist why it said that the results point towards this "developmental attention-deficit disorder" thing. He said it's not the same as AD/HD. When I asked what the difference was, he mumbled something and changed the subject. I've heard from countless other people that you just can't get anywhere with psychiatrists. It might be useful to try to ask others in your area which doctors are more likely to take you seriously.

swbluto wrote:
So, was the neuropsychologist able to nullify/"rule out" or otherwise cancel your previous AS diagnosis and your only problem is inattentiveness? Or, was this just to say you likely have inattentiveness in addition to whatever pre-existing conditions you have like AS?

I don't have an AS diagnosis. There's no way to tell from these tests if I have it or not. The only thing it does prove is that I have ADD. (The report says that attention was even more impaired than what could be reasonably expected, just like in the previous test, which I assume is related to either performance on the other tests or how well I've done in real life. It also said that I had excellent grades, which means I've been able to compensate for these difficulties.)

swbluto wrote:
(Essentially, I'm curious, do you definitely know you have or don't have AS?)

As definitely as I know some other things? No. And unless there is a test, like a brain scan, that can prove I have it, there is no way of telling for sure. AS can easily be mistaken with narcissism and other personality disorders, (social) anxiety and even an a introverted personality. I've diagnosed myself because I don't believe ADD and hypothyroidism explain all the symptoms (call them quirks if you wish :wink:) I've had since childhood.


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17 May 2011, 1:15 pm

Yeah, AS can't be diagnosed by neuropsych testing. It's still all behavioral. that's why a good psychologist is so important.


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17 May 2011, 1:27 pm

chinatown wrote:
The neurologist ordered the tests and they were done at a local hospital, so they cost me only 15€.


I wish my local hospital was as nice as yours! lol

Here, getting a bandaid at the local hospital costs $200. $10 for the bandaid and then $190 for the half-hour appointment.