I'm not stubborn. I'm just right.

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I work with NT's all day and a lot of the time when I look at a problem, I immediately see the best possible solution. I'm sure it's because we don't see the world the same way, but I try to explain it to them and I'm hit with argument after argument. I finally give up and let them do it their way because I run out of ways of explaining why it is wrong. So, they do it and it fails exactly how I said it would.
I guess I'm just venting, but I'm assuming that this is a common problem for us.

yup, I RELATE.

I have done a lot of group working in very unefficient ways and first during the task people could admit that my proposals would have been better. In school it was a horror because I lost the energy to participate and often ended up just carrying out the task given to me and let the others deal with the problems I saw from the beginning. When they were surprised to come to my initial conclusions I was almost sleeping... This includes that I have carried out tasks that I knew were superfluous from the beginning, but I just did it, so I did my part (probably dont have to say how that feels).

I definitely relate.

And, as for group projects in school, I was always the guy that just did the whole project for everyone (and usually earned us all an A too). It was just easier that way.

Im in that situation right now. It seems that the people who desperately want to be in charge don't know how, but are convinced they can. Its a matter of seeing them steer the ship into the cliff, right now my warnings don't want to be heard. It sucks when you are in the minority of people able to spot when things aren't going well. Its not fun when you know the project is going to crash and burn because 1 person thinks that being in the leadership position means you have to make all decisions and not consider input from your team.

People who eagerly jump into leadership positions are ussually bad leaders, people who are reluctant to lead know the pitfalls and thats why they are not eager to take on leadership.

I feel like being in the passenger seat to the driver who is going at full speed, even though you warn him that he is heading towards a wall he will not see it. The only option is to let him run into that wall face first and hope he will learn something while wrecking the other passengers in the process.

Got this all the time, consequently it became common knowledge amongst the NTs I worked with that I was "arrogant".
Heh, not at all - just right, and often frustrated at the grindingly slow process of getting them to see what I did.

I know. I'm not infallible but sometimes a thing just seems so obvious I don't know why they can't see it. They say it's their opinion, but you can't have an opinion about facts. It's either true or it isn't.

I could say so much on this topic! But the biggest problem I have is that people do not understand priorities, or probabilities, or the concept of calculating risk.

Sometimes I make mistakes. These are on unimportant things, because I have chosen to spend time on more important topics. I assessed the probability and cost of a mistake and accepted it as an optimal solution, given the other pressures on my time. I was happy to make the mistake because it meant my estimate was correct. I would be more worried to NEVER make a mistake in that area, because that would imply I was spending too much time on it, when I should be spending time on a more important task. Similarly if I made more than the predicted number of mistakes it implies my calculation is wrong and I need to reassess.

But my boss has no concept of calculated risk. If I make a mistake it is a sign that I should spend more time on it, as if time had an unlimited supply and had no impact on anything else.

I know how arrogant it sounds, but I just conclude that some people's brains work differently. They cannot make the calculation and so they get angry. They cannot comprehend that somebody would see the world differently, so they get even angrier. And I just stay quiet and accept their bile, and they conclude I am weirdo who does not get it.

I always just say that they have no foresight. Their brains do not have the ability so foresee, process and calculate. Not to mention the lack of spatial perception is annoying. It's nerve racking. I've always enjoyed chess because of this. I always played anytime I could get someone to agree. I had a man agree once to play at a party. I beat him in a small amount of moves. Afterward, he told me that he had known that I had beaten him from the beginning. He was a chess teacher.

I do seem to be more predictive than most people, but I also have a wide array of knowledge. If someone cracks a joke about an actor, I couldn't care less. But if they wonder aloud how that building was made, or why twelve doctors couldn't cure an illness, I can most likely tell them. That surprises people, and my mother and I have been mistaken for museum staff before.

I read the thread title and thought: I don't remember starting that thread, must have done it when I was tired.

Sometimes I am stubborn though. Sometimes I am arrogant. I have been embarrassingly proven wrong several times before.

Oh, I'm not saying that I can't be stubborn or wrong, but those are more often than not the outliers.