Page 1 of 3 [ 42 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2, 3  Next

KenM
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 15 Oct 2005
Age: 58
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,491
Location: Mass. USA

04 Sep 2006, 7:21 pm

It had a guy meeting a girl on the sidewalk, they had gone out. The guy asks the women why she had not called him back. She was obviously annoyed with him. But instead of just saying she was not interested, she lies to him and says her service was down. The guy then says "Ok, call me wheen you like" and walks away. The girl then turns around and the verizion network people come out of hiding. She then says "thanks guys, he never would have belived me" to the network guys. The ad is suposted to show how verizion has the most relaible network. But the ad really gets me PO'd. If the women is not interested, just be truthful and tell the guy. Don't play games and lie to him, making him think everything is good. Why do NT's think its fine to lie to people like that? Its not.



SeaBright
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 15 Aug 2006
Age: 52
Gender: Female
Posts: 1,407
Location: Halfway back

04 Sep 2006, 7:38 pm

after date conversation

Girl, "I don't think it's going to work out" (bye)
Guy, "It's ok. We could just have lunch!" (ignores bye)
Girl, "My service is down"


_________________
"I'm sorry Katya, my dear, but where we come from, your what's known as a pet; a not quite human novelty. It's why we brought you.... It's nothing to be ashamed of, my dear, but here you are and here you'll sit."


MrMark
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 3 Jul 2006
Age: 68
Gender: Male
Posts: 8,918
Location: Tallahassee, FL

04 Sep 2006, 7:41 pm

What an effective ad!

They got you to remember the name of the company and they got you so emotionally stirred up (we make most of our decisions emotionally) that you spread it around. I want the people who did that ad working for my company!


_________________
"The cordial quality of pear or plum
Rises as gladly in the single tree
As in the whole orchards resonant with bees."
- Emerson


walk-in-the-rain
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 11 Mar 2006
Gender: Female
Posts: 928

04 Sep 2006, 7:59 pm

But did he just walk away - or were his eyes were on another girl walking by when he tells her to call him? So it looks like the guy is playing games too. But she is using the "politeness" excuse that NT's seem to think make lying acceptable.



Indigo
Hummingbird
Hummingbird

User avatar

Joined: 18 May 2006
Gender: Female
Posts: 18

04 Sep 2006, 8:00 pm

Advertisements in general bother me. I have discussed this in a Social Psych class I took. I just don't understand how ads actually get people to buy stuff. For instance I saw a hardees commercial about a sandwich with jalepeno peppers on it. The commercial did not make me want a hamburgrer instead it made me crave nachos. I don't think that I have ever been more inclined to buy something just because it was on tv. Most of the time I don't even understand what the ad is about. What are they trying to sell? Jeans? Cars? insurance? Parfume? Who knows. I do remember really bad commercials though like Hardees. I won't eat Hardees because their commercials are so stupid. I won't buy auto insurance if it is advertised on tv. Only insurance companys that don't advertize get my patronage. I pretty much do the opposite of what ever the commercial is telling me to do. i do the same thing with people in my life. If I feel like I am being manipulated, annoyed or pressured I put up some major walls in defense. So from what I learned in Social Psych advertising works well on people. So why doesn't it work on me? Is it because I am an Aspie or just because i am me?



MrMark
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 3 Jul 2006
Age: 68
Gender: Male
Posts: 8,918
Location: Tallahassee, FL

04 Sep 2006, 8:07 pm

Advertisers recognize us as a demographic but they still don't understand us as one. Just look at the ads on WrongPlanet. Also, we are a tiny minority and most ads are designed to modify the behavior of the large majorities.


_________________
"The cordial quality of pear or plum
Rises as gladly in the single tree
As in the whole orchards resonant with bees."
- Emerson


KenM
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 15 Oct 2005
Age: 58
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,491
Location: Mass. USA

04 Sep 2006, 8:07 pm

walk-in-the-rain wrote:
But did he just walk away




Yes he did just walk away, thinking the girl still liked him because she was not honest with him.



krex
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 20 Jun 2006
Age: 62
Gender: Non-binary
Posts: 4,471
Location: Minnesota

04 Sep 2006, 9:01 pm

Just wanted to let you know....both genders do that and they do it to both genders...ie...I have had both males and females lead me on...even when it is just about friendship..."lets do coffee...I'll call you

I think I have always been honest in these situations but ,as someone mentioned,some guys dont seem to leave it at that and try and talk you into something you dont want...in that case I think that its ok to say what ever is necessary to get them to leave you alone...If polite doesnt work I will reort to rude...Would you rather the female says what she is really thinking..."I have no interest in you and would rather eat maggots then share another minute with you...often my "polite" refusels have been misinturpreted as "undecided" or"wanting to be convinced"....?????Maybe that is because soem NT women play head games like this and real honesty is missread?Whatever the cause ,some men only understand a very direct..."F#%$ off" which is uncomfortable to say(for me)but I will....


_________________
Just because one plane is flying out of formation, doesn't mean the formation is on course....R.D.Lang

Visit my wool sculpture blog
http://eyesoftime.blogspot.com/


Ticker
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 25 Aug 2006
Age: 57
Gender: Female
Posts: 2,955

04 Sep 2006, 10:23 pm

It's just a commercial. Calm down. It's just made in a way that will get the attention of young adults and teens in a way that they can relate to because they are the biggest segment of cell phone buyers.

Many females can attest to the fact that sometimes the ONLY way short of calling the police to get rid of a guy is to say something like the lady in the commercial did. That's because an awful lot of guys can not take NO for an answer. I've lost count how many times myself and also friends have had guys stalk and harass us non-stop when they tried the honest approach of "thanks, but I'm not interested", "I'm already dating someone else", "I'm married", "I'm not looking for anyone at the moment" or "Please do not ask me again". Sure what she did was rude, but so is an unrelentless guy. You can also turn the tables and say some girls stalk guys because they do. But the girl lying is a coping technique many women have learned to escape unwanted attention.



Callista
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 3 Feb 2006
Age: 43
Gender: Female
Posts: 10,775
Location: Ohio, USA

04 Sep 2006, 11:25 pm

Quote:
I just don't understand how ads actually get people to buy stuff.

No kidding!

The ads always seem to be advertising something completely different from the product. A car ad will be advertising the beautiful woman sitting on the car... an ad for a food will advertise fun or family togetherness. Sometimes ads emphasize an emotion--satisfaction or calm or pride or euphoria any number of good feelings.

I have yet to see an ad that simply describes the product...


_________________
Reports from a Resident Alien:
http://chaoticidealism.livejournal.com

Autism Memorial:
http://autism-memorial.livejournal.com


04 Sep 2006, 11:38 pm

NTs lie because they don't want to hurt your feelings.



KimJ
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 10 Jun 2006
Age: 56
Gender: Female
Posts: 2,418
Location: Arizona

05 Sep 2006, 12:27 am

Ads used to advertise the product, but that got old and worn out. Now they advertise themselves. They're competing for space in your brain and specifically in your perception. They have commodified everything in our world so that sometimes when we something basic like a car going down the street, we can picture it in a commercial, we have a built in soundtrack and what the person in the car is doing.
They crawl into your brains with barbs that we don't necessarily like. Like the cellphone ad in the first post. We are insulted enough to let it infiltrate our imagination. It allows to see cellphones used as normal modes of communication as normal as the sidewalk under our feet. People are using the term "landline" to mean a regular phone. That means what was normal is now not and cellphones are really "normal".
Frankly, those ads make me want to delay getting a cellphone, food ads make me want to eat locally and clothing ads me want to go dancing. go figure.



Who_Am_I
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 27 Aug 2005
Age: 42
Gender: Female
Posts: 12,632
Location: Australia

05 Sep 2006, 12:41 am

likedcalico wrote:
NTs lie because they don't want to hurt your feelings.


It hurts a lot worse to realise that you've been lied to and didn't know. I consider honest communication to be a sign of respect.


_________________
Music Theory 101: Cadences.
Authentic cadence: V-I
Plagal cadence: IV-I
Deceptive cadence: V- ANYTHING BUT I ! !! !
Beethoven cadence: V-I-V-I-V-V-V-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I
-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I! I! I! I I I


KenM
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 15 Oct 2005
Age: 58
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,491
Location: Mass. USA

05 Sep 2006, 4:47 am

Who_Am_I wrote:

It hurts a lot worse to realise that you've been lied to and didn't know. I consider honest communication to be a sign of respect.


I totally agree. The reason I hate the ad is it shows that its ok just to lie and say wahtever you like to get out of something.



Litigious
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 23 Aug 2006
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,505
Location: Nearest Wells Fargo trade

05 Sep 2006, 5:44 am

Amen.



hale_bopp
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 2 Nov 2004
Gender: Female
Posts: 17,054
Location: None

05 Sep 2006, 5:47 am

I agree with Mr Mark's first post in here.