I Have Aspergers, No Alternative Possibility Exists.

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02 Oct 2006, 1:40 pm

I had a review of my work, and the courses and training and a little about how I am being a bit hyper at work (they think because I have not taken my tablets). My superiors eventually come on to the subject of did I get a formal diagnosis of having Asperger. Because they did set an occupational therapist to get in contact with my GP, But I need to contact the GP to arrange them to diagnose me .

My superiors was talking about how a diagnosed myself with AS. I told them I used the Internet and a bit of logical thinking; people with AS are logical thinking. One of them Sandra, human resources, said that the Internet can be unreliable and there is so many different views that it is hard to find out.

I told them that I am work out what is correct logically and that there is no possibility that I am an NT Nerotypical, someone not in the Autistic spectrum. They said that everyone is a different in their own way. This may be sweet but I am more different them most people.

They also said that getting a formal diagnosis would confirm if I really have Aspergers Syndrome, they still have doubts that I really do.

I feel that they have a more faith in the logic of a professional physiotherapist then my logic and my nifty search Internet skills. I cannot imagine in gods given earth that the physiotherapist can tell me anything that I didn’t now before. I know that he will not now more then me.

As for as being an Aspie, I am a textbook case. There is very little that an aspie is that I am not. I could never conceive there even being a remote possibility of me being an NT. It is easier to believe that I was a girl who had a sex change at birth then to believe I am an NT.

It is often very hard for NT to get around the fact that Aspies make decision about what is true from what is false by using logical deduction rather then faith of believing in correct information.

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02 Oct 2006, 2:08 pm

If they beleive you are incorrect because you are not an "expert" that is an ad hominem logical fallacy.

Contrarily if they beleive a professional phychotherapist saying something makes it true then that is also a logical fallacy of the argumentum ad verecundiam variety.

If you believe you have AS then that is a valid hypothosis.

If you have verified the varacity of the hypothesis through objective analysis of the symptoms in comparison to the requirements for diagnosis then you have a theory.

The burden of proof now rests with them to provide evidence you do not have AS if they are going to argue the case.

And as I said before argumentum ad verecundiam and ad hominem arguments do not disprove a theory.


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02 Oct 2006, 2:38 pm

Well, there is one final NTness checklist you could run through.


The INST

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02 Oct 2006, 3:18 pm

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02 Oct 2006, 3:21 pm

People with AS often have a black-and-white view of the world. This is sometimes due to an eruption of the unconscious. Jungian analyst Alex Quenk wrote, "The unconscious has an all-or-nothing character. [It] thus approaches life rigidly and responds in a fixed and automatic manner regardless of changing circumstances” (p. 275).

OF COURSE you can't see the alternatives. OF COURSE you believe strongly and sincerely that you're being entirely resonable. That's the nature of the beast.

Go see a professional. The alternatives are out there. Let them show you some.

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02 Oct 2006, 3:30 pm

TheMachine1 wrote:
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02 Oct 2006, 3:49 pm

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02 Oct 2006, 5:13 pm

Fraya

I didn't completely understand your post. Were you complaining about too many ads on the site?


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02 Oct 2006, 5:46 pm

lol no the long and short of what I said is that believing what an expert says to be true because hes an "expert" is wrong and so is beleiving something someone says is false because they are NOT an "expert".

So in general his coworkers need to STFU about things they obviously dont understand :P


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02 Oct 2006, 5:46 pm

Aspie_Chav,
Sounds like you work for a large and caring organisation. Is there any down side to getting a diagnosis? If the company is able to hire an OT to improve your work situation, isn't that a good thing? :?


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02 Oct 2006, 9:40 pm

Fraya wrote:
lol no the long and short of what I said is that believing what an expert says to be true because hes an "expert" is wrong and so is beleiving something someone says is false because they are NOT an "expert".


Thing about trusting an intelligent NT is they often base there logic on what they have been taught. They can take a lot of information in and communicate in a very intelligent way. Have the mirror neurons, they can copy previously successful NTs. But what is considered successful might not be in the best interests of an Aspie. Often and usually intelligent NTs believe in something that is not true, like organised religion. And they focus on climbing the social pecking order instead of the pursuit of science and truth. That is the reason why mother nature invented Asperser syndrome in first place.