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15 Nov 2012, 2:07 am

...that I have Aspergers? Its self diagnosed, but Im pretty sure I have it. I know that if my mom knew what the symptoms were, she would immediately identify it with me. I was tested for ADD/ADHD when I was 10, but they used the WISC to do this, which, according to wikipedia is not an effective way for diagnosis. The result was that I did not have it, although, as an adult, I find that I cant even concentrate long enough to watch a 30 minute show, or even read long articles. Despite "not having it" I was still sent to an environmental psychologist and tested for various things, ultimately having to take vitamin supplements even some prescriptions to control whatever I "did not have." This was back in 1992-1993, so I dont think the knowledge of aspergers really existed back then, at least, it wasnt well known in the area yet.

I'm also not sure if I even should tell her or not. She's always considered myself not like the other children, and even as an adult, quite odd. If she knew, I'm not sure if it would be a relief that after all the money spent, and tears shed in the 90s, she finally had an answer, or if knowing her child is "special," I would no longer be treated like a normal person.



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15 Nov 2012, 2:14 am

It depends what relationship u have with her.

I have decided to not tell my parents. At least not yet.



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15 Nov 2012, 2:22 am

Well, there's not that many people in my life. I don't have any friends. I have relatives and a brother, but they've always felt like strangers to me, even though I see my brother like once a week. My father past away in 05, so really, it's just my mom and my husband right now. My 2 month old is still a stranger to me. So my mom is probably the closest person to me, although I am quite shy to tell her about anything that goes on in my life.



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15 Nov 2012, 2:35 am

I felt I needed to at least tell someone. I think you should tell her. But... just to warn u. It might not be what u expect. I got reactions I did not like when I told people. Ignorance and lack of understanding. But I doubt u will experience that.



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15 Nov 2012, 4:55 am

Can you get her a book about Asperger's? Or maybe just leave it on the coffee table for her to spot and suggest she read it. Don't say it like "It's time to tell you that I have XXX." Be more gentle about it, like "I read this book, it's very interesting and seem to describe me well. Will you read it and tell me what you think?"

Parents can take their children's (even adults) problems personally and feel they're to blame. I know my mom does and think her children are her biggest failure.


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15 Nov 2012, 6:32 am

Maybe just talk about the difficulties you're having and ask her what they looked for/ruled out when you were a kid, then say that you think ASD fits with your difficulties.



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15 Nov 2012, 2:00 pm

I think it will be difficult for anyone to offer meaningful advice because we don't know you or your mother or what kind of relationship the two of you have. Different kinds of situations would require very different approaches, so I'm afraid the only one who can figure out the best way is you.

I am concerned about telling my mother because I think she will suffer a lot of guilt about not picking up on it before now. For the moment, I've decided not to tell her. I am an adult, but for the sake of honesty I feel I will need to at some point. I'm planning to give her a book about it and agree that that's a great idea as it will give her plenty of information to digest at her own pace, but I'm not sure about the rest as yet.



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15 Nov 2012, 11:29 pm

How could they use the WISC to diagnose ADHD? Isn't that an IQ test? ADHD has nothing to do with intelligence......

I would start by telling your mother that you SUSPECT you have Aspergers (you are not diagnosed, if you go up and say "this is what I have", she might not take it quite as well). I would just tell her why you suspect it, tell her the main symptoms and ask her if she noticed them present when you were young.


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16 Nov 2012, 3:15 am

I had thought about the book method, but figured that the second she saw the word "aspergers" she would lack interest, or refuse to believe any of it applied. She can be very stubborn. I mean, last night I tried to tell her again and again how she didnt have to reset her itunes password by simply exiting the program and then trying again, but she refused to believe me, swearing I broke it, and refused to allow me to do this for her. (Dont worry, I fixed it when she wasnt looking by doing exactly what I said)

I think what I might do instead is create a list of symptoms, ask her if she thinks any of these apply to me, and if she believes most or all do, I'll reveal to her what the diagnosis is. Im just not sure if Im ready or not. I mean, its not like its her fault. What could she have done differently? Cater to my every issue? The world doesnt revolve around me.

littlelily613 wrote:
How could they use the WISC to diagnose ADHD? Isn't that an IQ test? ADHD has nothing to do with intelligence......


Exactly

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wechsler_I ... r_Children

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The WISC is used not only as an intelligence test, but as a clinical tool. Some practitioners use it to diagnose attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) and learning disabilities, for example. This is usually done through a process called pattern analysis, in which the various subtests' scores are compared to one another (ipsative scoring) and clusters of unusually low scores in relation to the others are searched for. David Wechsler himself suggested this in 1958.[1]

However, the research does not show this to be a very effective way to diagnose ADHD or learning disabilities.[2] The vast majority of ADHD children do not display certain subscores substantially below others, and many children who display such patterns do not have ADHD. Other patterns for children with learning disabilities show a similar lack of usefulness of the WISC as a diagnostic tool.[3] Although, when Cattell Horn Carrol (CHC) theory is used to interpret the WISC-IV subtest things tend to make a great deal more sense. When you combine visual spatial reasoning and fluid reasoning into one index score and give it the same weight as processing speed you are bound to get lower score on this assessment.

When diagnosing children, best practice suggests that a multi-test battery (i.e., multi-factored evaluation) should be used as learning problems, attention, and emotional difficulties can have similar symptoms, co-occur, or reciprocally influence each other. For example, children with learning difficulties can become emotionally distraught and thus have concentration difficulties, begin to exhibit behavior problems, or both. Children with ADD or ADHD may show learning difficulties because of their attentional problems or also have learning disorder or mental retardation (or have nothing else). In short, while diagnosis of any childhood or adult difficulty should never be made based on IQ alone (or interview, physician examination, parent report, other test etc. for that matter) the cognitive ability test can help rule out, in conjunction with other tests and sources of information, other explanations for problems, uncover co-morbid problems, and be a rich source of information when properly analyzed and care is taken to avoid relying simply on the single summary IQ score (Sattler, 2008).

The empirical consensus is that the WISC is best used as a tool to evaluate intelligence and not to diagnose ADHD or learning disabled children. It can be used to show discrepancies between a child's intelligence and his/her performance at school (and it is this discrepancy that School Psychologists look for when using this test). In a clinical setting, learning disabilities are generally diagnosed through a comparison of intelligence scores and scores on an achievement test, such as the Woodcock Johnson III or Wechsler Individual Achievement Test II. If a child's achievement is below what would be expected given their level of intellectual functioning (as derived from an IQ test such as the WISC-IV), then a learning disability may be present.


You see, I originally thought that I was given an IQ test because my teacher wanted to enroll me in special ed. To this day this made no sense to me as I was getting good grades. My husband will occasionally claim that I have ADD, but once my mom corrected him claiming that I didnt because she had me tested. I dont have any memory of this so called testing, but do remember very vividly the IQ test. After a while I was curious about the test I took and wikied the WISC because I wanted to know more. I found out that it was once used to test for this. I guess the belief was that since I scored so high there could have been no way that I could possibly have it.

A month ago, I did find an interesting piece of paper at my moms house while pet sitting. It was a grading chart for ADHD filled out and signed by my stupid 5th grade teacher. I had no idea such a thing existed, especially back in 92. She filled out the maximum for everything with the exception of one... ..."mean and cruel to others."