DVCal wrote:
zacb wrote:
I have sought spiritual and health counselors before about my condition. They helped a bit, but it seems like helping myself was the biggest help.
There is no need to seek spiritual health, belief in spirits is like belief in goblins and gouls, it just isn't real.
which isn't to say that empirical study doesn't support the notion that people who know they are being prayed for and believe in the power of prayer do better in medical situations. even if you're going to be evangelical about atheism (and my parents are in a cult and I'm gay so I have some sympathies towards your position) at least acknowledge that the placebo effect can happen and that optimism, whether it's based in fact or not, can be helpful in the healing process.
incidentally the CBT I'm doing to manage my debilitating anxiety is based on collaboration between an MD and a PhD neurologist with Buddhist monks and nuns. due to neuroplasticity, mindfulness meditation techniques can have statistically significant effects in practitioners with even severe anxiety disorders, and there are multiple studies to back this up. like it or not, at least SOME religious practices are actually somewhat ahead of western medicine in terms of treatment for psychological disorders, and skeptical peer reviewed literature admits that on a fairly regular basis. Buddhists may not have discovered the amygdala and stress hormones, but they're a hell of a lot better at
managing it when it goes into overdrive than secular materialist biomedical treatment is. 2500 years of cultivated self-awareness is worth looking into, "spiritual" though it may be.
save the hostility for ex-gay therapy and people who think all mental health problems are caused by demons. plain old spirituality and a support system with beliefs you don't happen to share can be perfectly adaptive for many people. christianity may be responsible for half my problems, but that doesn't mean it can't solve some problems for other people.
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KADI score: 114/130
Your Aspie score: 139 of 200
Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 54 of 200
Conversion Disorder, General/Social Anxiety Disorder, Major Depression