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27 Feb 2013, 3:36 am

IS this guy aspergian.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovgvAzJplLI

This guy was referred to aspergian on a radio show yesterday, first time I ever heard that.

I have to wonder are we finally hitting a point of exposure where random people can be identified as having aspergers?



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27 Feb 2013, 3:49 am

The Startrek references are funny as hell, but more of an indicator of him being/have been a nerd.

You can never - ever see on a person if they have Aspergers, symptoms vary alot from nothing to bloody obvious. Some more Autistic people make it clear with their behaviour that they are on the spectrum.


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27 Feb 2013, 4:38 am

Ichinin wrote:
The Startrek references are funny as hell, but more of an indicator of him being/have been a nerd.

You can never - ever see on a person if they have Aspergers, symptoms vary alot from nothing to bloody obvious. Some more Autistic people make it clear with their behaviour that they are on the spectrum.


Yes you can. How else do you think people get diagnosed? And if there are no symptoms, then it doesn't exist. Think about it, if someone doesn't have any symptoms of Asperger's, then clearly they do not have Asperger's. It's not always easy to tell but that doesn't mean symptoms aren't there.
And unless I misunderstood, I think you contradicted yourself in your last sentence.



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27 Feb 2013, 4:50 am

Redstar2613 wrote:
Yes you can. How else do you think people get diagnosed?


By a psychiatyrist that sits down with the person and ask him or her questions about life and growing up. Not by an "aspie spotter" who walks around and call out aspies because they look a certain way :P

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And if there are no symptoms, then it doesn't exist.


Ok, so because i do not have any stimms or characteristic auti/aspie looks, then my diagnosis is wrong? Get real. The diagnostic criterias are about life, not looks.

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Think about it, if someone doesn't have any symptoms of Asperger's, then clearly they do not have Asperger's. It's not always easy to tell but that doesn't mean symptoms aren't there.


Still seems to me like you are talking about visual or behaviour clues that arent always there - and not part of a diagnosis. Do NOT make the assumption that because you have such behaviour or visual clues that everyone else have them. I appear "normal" to most other people and i have grown since childhood, but i still suffer from the social deficiencies that comes with Aspergers, hence the diagnosis.

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And unless I misunderstood, I think you contradicted yourself in your last sentence.


No i did not, major difference between an Aspie and an Autie. Hang around on this forum for a couple of years and you pick up a few things.


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27 Feb 2013, 6:27 am

I'm not saying you can instantly spot someone with it. That would be stupid. I wasn't going by looks at all, actually. Reading your original comment again, I think I did misunderstand you. Sorry about that. And I look "normal", too.

Love that Carl Sagan quote, by the way.



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27 Feb 2013, 7:08 am

Ichinin wrote:
The Startrek references are funny as hell, but more of an indicator of him being/have been a nerd.

You can never - ever see on a person if they have Aspergers, symptoms vary alot from nothing to bloody obvious. Some more Autistic people make it clear with their behaviour that they are on the spectrum.



He pretty much is, I did some research into it and this claim was said by a close friend.



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27 Feb 2013, 7:21 am

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He pretty much is, I did some research into it and this claim was said by a close friend.


...a friend who has a keen insight into the autistic mind?


I've seen plenty of people being called out as autistic, but when you look at what they do, how they behave and what their problems are, they appear either normal or have some other psychiatric disorder.

The roots of the problem is that:
1 - Most shrinks are morons who cannot tell the difference between Aspergers and a hole in the ground.
2 - Psychiatri is not as scientific as some people believe. Like one can see when reading this forum, diagnosis are like a lottery: sometimes you win, but for the most part you loose.


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27 Feb 2013, 9:47 am

Ichinin wrote:
Stoek wrote:
He pretty much is, I did some research into it and this claim was said by a close friend.


...a friend who has a keen insight into the autistic mind?


I've seen plenty of people being called out as autistic, but when you look at what they do, how they behave and what their problems are, they appear either normal or have some other psychiatric disorder.

The roots of the problem is that:
1 - Most shrinks are morons who cannot tell the difference between Aspergers and a hole in the ground.
2 - Psychiatri is not as scientific as some people believe. Like one can see when reading this forum, diagnosis are like a lottery: sometimes you win, but for the most part you loose.


Psychiatry is a psuedoscience based on scientific method applications of subjective data. So, take it with a grain of salt, imo. Psychiatrists are people and people can be fooled. Empirical data only has the limitation of humans observing and interpreting it. Anyway, not sure why I posted. :oops: