Did y'all notice wikipedia took down the neuroracism page?

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuroracism

It says 'Non-notable neologism'.

I find this to be somewhat disturbing. I think this term is great and means alot for the autistic communities.

What do you all think, anyway we can get the page back up there?

What does it mean?

If it means something like "prejudice against autistic people" I think it's a terrible neologism, as prejudice against autistic people isn't racism.

It's not specific to autistic people, it refers to anyone with a neurological abnormality that culture doesn't accept on equal terms.

It's not 'racism', it's 'neuroracism'....

I think the term is highly appropriate. If you look at what 'racism' is broken down http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism

"Racism is usually defined as views, practices and actions reflecting the belief that humanity is divided into distinct biological groups called races and that members of a certain race share certain attributes which make that group as a whole less desirable, more desirable, inferior or superior.[1][2][3]"

The real premise behind it is that humans are in 'distinct biological groups'. Typicaly this grouping is made based on skin color. But thats why it is prefixed with 'neuro', to note the biological distinction in groups it is referring to is neurological.

It just reflects the popular attitude that "neuroracism" (or ableism, or whatever you want to call it) doesn't exist.

Face it: They don't exist. We NaT folk are not equal human beings with equal rights and equal value.

Things like "equality," "rights," and "value" are socially determined. Society determines that we don't have them. Society determines that we are broken, diseased, inferior, and undesirable.

Therefore we are broken, diseased, inferior, and undesirable.

Get that through your thick heads. Save yourselves a lot of trouble.

The use of "racism" as part of your neologism is unnecessarily appropriative. Racism is a matter of history, prejudices, systemic power, and the like. Experiencing it is not the same as experiencing ableism for having a "neurological abnormality." Appending "neuro" to the word doesn't change this fact, or the fact that race as a construct is simply not applied to people do to neurology.

Obviously, prejudice against people with disabilities exists. I just read a chapter in a professional publication about autism that goes on at length about why autistic autobiographies are not to be trusted, coupled with extensive rationalization to force the quoted autobiographers to fit into the author's fairly narrow definition of autism. That much of the work around autism is aimed at parents (most of whom are neurotypical) and professionals, often to the exclusion of autistic people. Bring up ADHD just about anywhere - including this forum - and you'll find people who are more than happy to hold forth with nonsense like "it's not a real condition" or that giving children stimulants is done to turn them into quiescent zombies (because that makes any sense at all, right?) or that ADHD is really due to bad parenting.

What "neuroracism" describes is a real thing, but it is not a thing that can logically be described as any form of racism, neuro- or otherwise.

Here's a wikipedia page for a perfectly good word that applies: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ableism

Wow! "Appropriative", "ableism" "quiescent"...I was looking for a quiet coffee shop and made a left turn into Mensa HQ! I'll just step over here now --->

That word is used by someone? If not (or is only used by a handfull of people, and/or only in a mode "let's create and divulgate that word"), it is a 'non-notable neologism'.

Wikipedia called it a "non-notable neologism". They aren't saying it is good or bad, only that it is quite uncommon and not well known enough to warrant it's own entry. I've been reading wrongplanet daily for about two years now and though I'm quite familiar with the concept, I've never heard the term 'neuroracism' before, so I agree with wikipedia. It seems to me that any information that you would want to put in that entry would go just as well under a subheading in the 'ableism' entry.

If it doesn't involve a prejudice based on race, then there is no need for the word at all since it is meaningless.

They are right; it's a non-notable neologism. If you want to add info about anti-autism bias, you should go to the "ablism" or "neurodiversity" page.

Wikipedia's got to be organized by well-established terms. The term "neuroracism" is not yet an established way of saying "the phenomenon of people not liking those whose brains are different from their own". There are quite a few other ways of saying that.

If you've got information to add, stick it on the more general pages about prejudice against the disabled. If enough information gets collected, it might be split off into its own page eventually.

I prefer 'neuro-centricism' or 'neuro-chauvinism'.

Racism is not analogous to anti autism prejudice. Its like saying racism and homophobia are the same.

Society does not hand out rights. You must demand them.

Unfortunately some among us are useful idiots in the NT's campaign to have us eradicated.

Irrelevant.

a. The label that implies that people who are neurologically different should be considered another race.

b. People who are neurologically different are not another race.

: : The term "Neuroracism" is both inappropriate and incorrect.

"neuro-" is a combining form (a prefix) meaning “nerve,” “nerves,” “nervous system”

"racism": (1) a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others; or (2) hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.

Combining the two results in (1) a belief or doctrine that inherent neuro-differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own neuro-race is superior and has the right to rule others; or (2) hatred or intolerance of another neuro-race or other neuro-races.

Last edited by Fnord on 02 May 2013, 2:48 pm, edited 1 time in total.

It's "non-notable" because it isn't used very much. In fact, this is the first time I've heard of it, and I hang around in places like this where that sort of thing is discussed regularly. I've heard various terms used for the concept, and I liked other terms better than this one. Perhaps eventually one of them will catch on. But in any case, you can't just go inventing a word and putting it on Wikipedia.

Why don't you just do something about your broken self, and save the rest of us the trouble of listening to your hateful garbage? Don't you think we get enough of that from the rest of the world, without having to come on here and listen to you gleefully parrot it, as if saying it yourself is some kind of magical ward against it?