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Joshandspot
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28 May 2013, 6:33 pm

Does anyone else feel like people in general really have trouble empathizing or understanding their frustrations and annoyances. Or it feels one sided like the person with aspergers always has to admit when their wrong or not knowledgeable but NTs don't need to fess up to their own mistakes



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28 May 2013, 7:11 pm

socially inept folks in general, get the short end of the stick.



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28 May 2013, 7:58 pm

Joshandspot wrote:
Does anyone else feel like people in general really have trouble empathizing or understanding their frustrations and annoyances. Or it feels one sided like the person with aspergers always has to admit when their wrong or not knowledgeable but NTs don't need to fess up to their own mistakes


There is a social penalty, which may be increasing, to admitting annoyance with some things.


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29 May 2013, 5:17 am

I have a lot of trouble directly confronting people with my grievances. It seems like I'm always defeated, for a number of reasons:

I can't structure my argument/thoughts properly and my words are jumbled;
Whoever I'm talking to will keep interrupting and talking over me, making me feel like I'm wasting my time and irritating me even more;
I'm too nervous about offending the person I'm talking to, doesn't matter if they've wronged me. In short I let them walk all over me and I should really stop that.



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29 May 2013, 5:55 am

I always get confused thinking about social adeptness, like if I'm having a conversation with someone and an awkward silence happens and I don't know what to say, isn't the other person just as socially inadept because they don't know what to say either.


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29 May 2013, 6:53 am

Jainz wrote:
I have a lot of trouble directly confronting people with my grievances. It seems like I'm always defeated, for a number of reasons:

I can't structure my argument/thoughts properly and my words are jumbled;
Whoever I'm talking to will keep interrupting and talking over me, making me feel like I'm wasting my time and irritating me even more;
I'm too nervous about offending the person I'm talking to, doesn't matter if they've wronged me. In short I let them walk all over me and I should really stop that.


This is why a large reason why I have stopped confronting people with my issues, it just never works out for me and it has always been easier to simply iqnore someone then to attempt fix an issue they created. Confronting people just contributes to my social anxeity and I have too much of that already.



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29 May 2013, 2:00 pm

rapidroy wrote:
Jainz wrote:
I have a lot of trouble directly confronting people with my grievances. It seems like I'm always defeated, for a number of reasons:

I can't structure my argument/thoughts properly and my words are jumbled;
Whoever I'm talking to will keep interrupting and talking over me, making me feel like I'm wasting my time and irritating me even more;
I'm too nervous about offending the person I'm talking to, doesn't matter if they've wronged me. In short I let them walk all over me and I should really stop that.


This is why a large reason why I have stopped confronting people with my issues, it just never works out for me and it has always been easier to simply iqnore someone then to attempt fix an issue they created. Confronting people just contributes to my social anxeity and I have too much of that already.


I can relate to those two posters and the OP. I always end up being made to be the wrong one because I can't properly say what I need to say, due to nervousness. I've been told that I have to learn to stand up for myself, but I never seem to be able to do that.



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29 May 2013, 2:09 pm

jk1 wrote:
rapidroy wrote:
Jainz wrote:
I have a lot of trouble directly confronting people with my grievances. It seems like I'm always defeated, for a number of reasons:

I can't structure my argument/thoughts properly and my words are jumbled;
Whoever I'm talking to will keep interrupting and talking over me, making me feel like I'm wasting my time and irritating me even more;
I'm too nervous about offending the person I'm talking to, doesn't matter if they've wronged me. In short I let them walk all over me and I should really stop that.


This is why a large reason why I have stopped confronting people with my issues, it just never works out for me and it has always been easier to simply iqnore someone then to attempt fix an issue they created. Confronting people just contributes to my social anxeity and I have too much of that already.


I can relate to those two posters and the OP. I always end up being made to be the wrong one because I can't properly say what I need to say, due to nervousness. I've been told that I have to learn to stand up for myself, but I never seem to be able to do that.


The same here, but the difference being that I do try to stand up for myself. I just make myself look emotional and crazy because I can't think on the spot. I start grabbing pieces from all over the place to make my case but wind up looking illogical. It is made even more immensely frustrating because I tend to feel that my reasonings are usually quite logical. This makes for a vicious cycle. Writing things out is a much better medium for me, but even so my intentions/tone can come across incorrectly through text.



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29 May 2013, 2:09 pm

Yes!

I can never voice my concerns to the person that it involves. >.<



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29 May 2013, 6:08 pm

I am very non confrontational unless extremely provoked. I have become defensive over the years.