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25 May 2014, 10:12 am

I supplement magnesium citrate and find that it helps me relax and sleep better. Studies have shown that up to 80% of Americans are deficient in magnesium and probably those figures are the same worldwide. Does anybody supplement with magnesium? Magnesium plays a role to over 300 different chemical reactions in the body and can relieve anxiety, help with fatigue, and help you get better sleep. Magnesium oxide isn't good to take though because the body can't absorb it. Magnesium malate, chloride, citrate, or threonate are the best forms of magnesium to take.



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25 May 2014, 10:20 am

I do topical mag at night before going to bed.


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25 May 2014, 11:26 am

I use magnesium chloride to spray on the skin, also called transdermal magnesium oil. I just bought flakes of the magnesium and dissolved in water. It is supposed to get absorbed better that way and it's really cheap.



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25 May 2014, 11:57 am

I've used a homemade magnesium sulphate (epsom salts) lotion daily after I shower. It absorbs continuously like a time release pill. I started, and continue, in order to detox salicylate acids that were causing all sorts of neurological problems & it's made a world of difference.


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25 May 2014, 12:05 pm

Yew wrote:
I use magnesium chloride to spray on the skin, also called transdermal magnesium oil. I just bought flakes of the magnesium and dissolved in water. It is supposed to get absorbed better that way and it's really cheap.


Do you have a link to the flakes that you bought? You just make the oil yourself right?



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25 May 2014, 12:19 pm

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Studies have shown that up to 80% of Americans are deficient in magnesium and probably those figures are the same worldwide.

Source?

The figure for the general population I could find was about 7% - and even if you only look at intensive care patients, the figure is 60%!

I do think magnesium supplementation could be a good idea if one eats a diet rich in meat and dairy rather than plant-based foods. However, be cautious of people informing you of the wonderful short-term health benefits - the main thing is a reduced risk of dropping dead from a heart attack in 10-30 years. Someone selling you short term benefits is probably selling you the placebo effect, in the hope that you'll buy more of their "wonderful" products...

Do not waste money on magnesium oil!. Think about it: you don't die of severe magnesium deficiency when you stay in the rain too long. Ions don't cross the skin very easily.



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25 May 2014, 1:00 pm

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I do think magnesium supplementation could be a good idea if one eats a diet rich in meat and dairy rather than plant-based foods. However, be cautious of people informing you of the wonderful short-term health benefits - the main thing is a reduced risk of dropping dead from a heart attack in 10-30 years. Someone selling you short term benefits is probably selling you the placebo effect, in the hope that you'll buy more of their "wonderful" products...


Oh, right.. because those of us who have experienced short term benefits that we've shared here with others and recommended that they go to their local pharmacy and buy a ~$10 4kg container of epsom salts MUST be in it for the money we're making! :lol: :roll:


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25 May 2014, 1:09 pm

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I do think magnesium supplementation could be a good idea if one eats a diet rich in meat and dairy rather than plant-based foods. However, be cautious of people informing you of the wonderful short-term health benefits - the main thing is a reduced risk of dropping dead from a heart attack in 10-30 years. Someone selling you short term benefits is probably selling you the placebo effect, in the hope that you'll buy more of their "wonderful" products...


Oh, right.. because those of us who have experienced short term benefits that we've shared here with others and recommended that they go to their local pharmacy and buy a ~$10 4kg container of epsom salts MUST be in it for the money we're making! :lol: :roll:

OK, correction: they're either selling you the placebo effect, or they've already been sold it by someone else.



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25 May 2014, 1:22 pm

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goldfish21 wrote:
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I do think magnesium supplementation could be a good idea if one eats a diet rich in meat and dairy rather than plant-based foods. However, be cautious of people informing you of the wonderful short-term health benefits - the main thing is a reduced risk of dropping dead from a heart attack in 10-30 years. Someone selling you short term benefits is probably selling you the placebo effect, in the hope that you'll buy more of their "wonderful" products...


Oh, right.. because those of us who have experienced short term benefits that we've shared here with others and recommended that they go to their local pharmacy and buy a ~$10 4kg container of epsom salts MUST be in it for the money we're making! :lol: :roll:

OK, correction: they're either selling you the placebo effect, or they've already been sold it by someone else.


OR not.

Why do you assume others are experiencing a placebo effect vs. genuine health improvements?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-mark-h ... 25499.html


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25 May 2014, 2:36 pm

goldfish21 wrote:
I've used a homemade magnesium sulphate (epsom salts) lotion daily after I shower. It absorbs continuously like a time release pill. I started, and continue, in order to detox salicylate acids that were causing all sorts of neurological problems & it's made a world of difference.


I read your blog.

I read on a forum that Epsom salts are rapidly absorbed, but also rapidly excreted through the body's kidneys or something along those lines. The body is very good at breaking down magnesium but Epsom salts in particular don't last long is what I read.

Have you heard of the forum called marks daily apple?



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25 May 2014, 2:47 pm

Even if epsom salts don't last long, it hasn't seemed to make a difference to the benefits I've had using them. It likely helps that I use them daily.

No, I haven't heard of mark's daily apple.


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25 May 2014, 3:18 pm

I use it to ease muscle pain (which it does), sometimes at night if I am a bit restless and want to slip into sleep.
Occasionally I get cramp in my feet or calf and take a large dose immediately for that.

It's such a useful, essential mineral. The citrate form is definitely the one to go for.

PS: magnesium is in chocolate, so that's another reason to indulge!!



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25 May 2014, 3:28 pm

Inthewind336 wrote:
Yew wrote:
I use magnesium chloride to spray on the skin, also called transdermal magnesium oil. I just bought flakes of the magnesium and dissolved in water. It is supposed to get absorbed better that way and it's really cheap.


Do you have a link to the flakes that you bought? You just make the oil yourself right?


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1000g-MAGNESI ... 20d0ef20b9

Yes, it is easy to make. You just dissolve the flakes in hot demineralized water.



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25 May 2014, 3:29 pm

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I use it to ease muscle pain (which it does), sometimes at night if I am a bit restless and want to slip into sleep.
Occasionally I get cramp in my feet or calf and take a large dose immediately for that.

It's such a useful, essential mineral. The citrate form is definitely the one to go for.

PS: magnesium is in chocolate, so that's another reason to indulge!!


I've been using citrate with good, noticeable results. I was interested in trying malate, threonate, or chloride though to see if those would be even better.

It's hard to even find good magnesium in stores. Most of it is garbage oxide.



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25 May 2014, 3:42 pm

Solgar is the brand to look for, for purity, if you can get it in the US.



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26 May 2014, 6:30 am

goldfish21 wrote:
The_Walrus wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
The_Walrus wrote:
I do think magnesium supplementation could be a good idea if one eats a diet rich in meat and dairy rather than plant-based foods. However, be cautious of people informing you of the wonderful short-term health benefits - the main thing is a reduced risk of dropping dead from a heart attack in 10-30 years. Someone selling you short term benefits is probably selling you the placebo effect, in the hope that you'll buy more of their "wonderful" products...


Oh, right.. because those of us who have experienced short term benefits that we've shared here with others and recommended that they go to their local pharmacy and buy a ~$10 4kg container of epsom salts MUST be in it for the money we're making! :lol: :roll:

OK, correction: they're either selling you the placebo effect, or they've already been sold it by someone else.


OR not.

Why do you assume others are experiencing a placebo effect vs. genuine health improvements?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-mark-h ... 25499.html

Because I know a thing or two about a) pseudoscience peddled by the likes of Dr Hyman (check out his other work, the guy is a nut), b) actual science. You expect to be taken seriously when you claim magnesium can be absorbed through the skin?

If you're frequently feeling fatigued or dizzy, maybe you're magnesium deficient and could benefit in the medium term from supplementing it. Otherwise, the benefits are long term. It is NOT a wonder mineral, it will NOT cure every little problem you have. If you feel all kinds of problems being cured very rapidly, it is a placebo.