classic autists message to aspies

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what advice would you give to an aspie in real life and in wrong planet. what would be your words of wisdom about as?. what would you say to another autist on the street about autism? how would you describe as from an autists pov?

Mine would be to never under estimating the power of a classic autist.

My advice to all aspies is that you can do what you want in life as long as you downplay interpersonal part of it. I dont know if it aslo apply to classic autism

Don't be hard on yourself. Even if you don't get things right all the time be as patient and gentle and loving to yourself as you would want others to be to you. The golden rule of treating others as you would treat yourself applies to you as well. And if others have a hard time understanding you be patient and gentle with them as well and always take the option to educate people even if they frustrate you by their ignorance. You can have a huge influence in how well people treat and respect you by how you respond to them.

Oops, Sorry. I just made a n error here. Please forgive me. I just reread the title and OP. I am not a classic autie, but I think the advice is good for everyone.

Last edited by skibum on 19 Aug 2014, 5:07 am, edited 3 times in total.

#dont treat us like we are a different species,we relate to aspies in many ways.
-we just have a different presentation of autism.

#dont assume we want/need curing anymore than aspies dont.

#please stop 'claiming' our classic autistic role models just because they are sucessful and talented;eg einstein [if he indeed was on the spectrum],martin finn [am a long time fan of his and the sun newspaper wrote an article on him not that long ago saying he had aspergers when he is actualy a severely classic autistic man],and temple grandin.

What does "claiming" role models mean?

claiming someone as their own=by calling them aspergan to suit a persons own wants/needs and not rightfuly classic autistic.
it carries on the belief that people with classic autism cannot have skills,qualities,talents or success,even profoundly autistic people can be successful under the right circumstances; look at tito mukhopadhyay who has had books published.
am badly depressed currently and need every bit of positivity that can gather.

I respect everybody here and at times we all do silly things I do not hold it against the person but I will have a go at the silly thing itself.

That thread asking low functioning people a question is up there with the worst threads on this board ever.

I can understand the need to express annoyance at that thread.

There's also the viewpoint that more people perceived as "low-functioning" should be encouraged to "come out" on these forums--even in irritation at that very thread!

Oh, that makes sense. Thanks. Yeah, it would be right to say that they have classic Autism and not Asperger's. That would be accurate.

Why do you think it's a bad thread? They are genuine questions asked from a pure hearted intent. And we are having a very good conversation on that thread and learning quite a bit about each other that we might not have learned otherwise.

I'm always a little bothered by things that objectify people, I don't know that the thread's bad, it bothers me some because I feel it's somewhat making people objects. But reality is we do that here a lot whenever we try to analyze the behavior of people we see as different. And that's a lot of what we do here with no ill intent. Dividing classic autism and Aspergers sometimes can create very artificial lines. Like I just read how someone sees Aspies as having primarily social difficulties and Autists as primarily communication problems. It's agitating to be put into a box that way. Especially when I don't necessarily feel it fits.

I can respect how you see it Waterfalls but I don't really understand how it objectifies people. I see as just getting to know each other. No one is talking for the other, we are sharing how we experience things and realizing that some things we experience are more similar to each other than we knew before.

You never make me feel like you aren't seeing people as people Skibum!

Sometimes people just throw out there a search for, or belief that, if you have this or that label, this is how you are. And it's just not always true. A lot of assumptions and stereotypes are valid, but many aren't and it's when there's a mismatch that I'm bothered. For instance, I'm diagnosed with AS and that's I think valid. But in a small way I identify more with autism than Aspergers and so many of the things said about differences clash with how I see myself and my daughter as well. And that clash makes me confused who am I, what am I, so I at that point just want to drop labels and be me, and she is her. But when everything fits smoothly and is accurate I don't even notice.

The feeling objectified is when someone announces distinctions that don't seem valid to me. I have a hard time seeing another point of view without making it my own, and I get confused confronting the reality that someone thinks ______and I disagree. It seems like with adequate understanding we should be able to reach agreement. I am always confused when people don't. I don't understand that at all.

Does this make sense? It's hard to explain, so I hope somewhat?

It's not the intent I just think those of us that fall on the aspie part of the spectrum should be careful not to hurt the feelings of others on the spectrum.

There are a lot of threads that have Aspergers in the title I feel this kind of makes others feel left out.

I know how I feel when I hear dumb people saying ass burgers I can understand how the term low functioning must feel for people with classic autism as I call it.

I will say it again we are all people.
I do understand the intent of the other thread and it while I may get it using the term classic autism or severe autism sounds better.

On this board we all have to deal with some level of Autism it what me have its not what we are.

Whenever you feel this way remember all that you have accomplished. Raising awareness of Autism and even becoming a trainer for the medical establishment. Coming online and giving support and help to others that DO look up to your accomplishments. You have done so much more then many have done. Knowing those things alone has to make you feel needed and wanted by the community. And when you are absent from here, you valued input and presence is sorely missed! xD

It's annoying when someone diagnosed with AS says that they think they are are functioning poorly and therefore must have classic autism instead.
If used, the distinction between AS and classic autism is in childhood history of language development, so that is not going to change regardless of adulthood functioinng.