How come I'm not allowed to be homophobic?

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I would rather be in a parking garage with car alarms going off than have a gay guy staring at me. But in this PC world I'm supposed to be ok with gay guys looking at my body. Bull s**t, I'm so sick of gay people being treated like they've been tragically effected by something and now we must all have compassion for them. I wish the hardest thing I've had to go through was coming out of the closet, that'd be easy. I would just move to a place full of gay guys, problem solved. Sorry gays, I don't feel bad for you. I feel bad for me.

Well... err.... many homosexuals have been bullied, physical and verbally, murdered, lost jobs and not given jobs, deal with hate speech and the like just because they are gay. Why else do you think there is gay pride and people spending years fighting to legalize gay marriage, tolerance and acceptance? Because plenty of people, even to this day are super biased and hostile towards homosexuals. It's serious, real life business and not just some internet phenomenon. It perfectly makes sense why many gays and other people of the lgbtq spectrum would behave as they have been tragically abused and people support their cause.

Though, I do agree that some homosexuals tend to overexaggerate and act like elites... kind of how some feminists are now. It offends and annoys me sometimes when I hear gays complain constantly about certain situations when they typically have it better than those, like myself, of an different sexual spectrum that still get executed and locked up to this day with the "rapist" logo slapped on our foreheads and documentations.

Last edited by MariaTheFictionkin on 28 Dec 2017, 12:43 pm, edited 5 times in total.

You are allowed, within few limits, to be as homophobic as you might wish to be. Your First Amendment right of free speech protects you. The only limits include defamation (libel and slander) and so-called fighting words which could provoke assault from others. Other than that, you can believe, say and do almost anything to express your opinions.

But, while I appreciate you not wanting to have other men stare at you, their staring (in public places) is just as lawful.

I am gay, and I don't like being stared at, either. But, I suspect my not liking staring has more to do with my autism than anything about others and their ideas, intentions and opinions about me.

This is going to be locked in a hurry, I know. But before it does let me say one thing: gay guys are not attracted to every single man they see any more than straight guys are attracted to every woman they see. Just because they're gay doesn't mean they want sex all the time. But as long as you don't commit any hate crimes, bully or murder them, I guess you're free to feel the way you do.

You'd think someone on the spectrum would have a better understanding due to society also being cruel to us for something we can't help being.

Hmm. That is an interesting comparison. I should have thought of that before now. Considering the disproportionate number of LGBT individuals who are also autistic (and vice versa), I wonder what the rate of self-hating would be within that combined community.

Political correctness.

I can't move to a place full of people with autism. Gays can move to West Hollywood. They can also go the gym and look at guy's dicks whenever they want too. I don't feel bad for them. I feel bad for me.

Because freedom of speech and democracy are BS, OP.

I'm not heterosexual, yet I agree I find other gays annoying. Let's say I feel like an Uncle Tom who doesn't like other blacks, but I don't really feel like walltexting the whole idea. So many, many things I dislike about the ret*d LGTBXFY alphabet soup. I must also say that the left values the life of a non-white heterosexual person more than the life of a white homosexual person. They don't give a damn the rapefugees who are way more homophobic than you slowly take over our countries without a fight. The thing is, you should definitely be allowed to be homophobic as much as you want in the same way I should be allowed to be xenophobic and racist when necessary. Real freedom of speech means to handle reality like a man.

The gay comunity is absolutely awful.

Poor baby.

He cant handle a guy starring at him the same way he himself stares at females.

Women somehow deal with us straight guys undressing them with our eyes. And we are twenty times more common than gay guys. So women hafta deal with it 20 times as much as you do.

When I was around 28 an older guy (customer of the store I worked at) even flashed his gold card and tried to purchase.....um....purchase ME!

It was like I was a girl in tall pumps standing on a street corner at night in the tenderloin district being approached by a prospective John in a car.

It was a weird experience. But it didn't scar me emotionally or anything. I somehow survived.

Not all straight men are Harvey Weinstein. And not all gay men are like that store customer guy.

How about gay guys stop treating gym locker rooms like sex clubs? Stop feeling bad for them. I'm homophobic because of them.

And don't females also air complaints about being stared at? Somehow I doubt you would reply with "Poor baby she cant handle a guy starring at her the same way she herself stares at guys".

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I honestly I think that I am a bit homophobic and I imagine most men are, by homophobic I mean an irrational fear of gays, I do feel less comfortable around gay men that said I support gay rights 100%.

Why share your awful opinion here? Just to be a prick?

Nothing to do you you finding sex between two men repulsive? That did it for me in my younger days. While finding two men getting it on repulsive is the way I am wired homophobia is not. Homophobia ultimately is the fault of the homophobic not the fault of the homosexuals. I am sure LBGT people find most things in life geared to cigendered straight males very annoying. Even with political correctness and acceptance in general homosexuals need to put up with a lot more hetro expectations then the other way around. I say that as a guy that got into couple of situations involving gay men that were more scary then staring.

This thread is just...where do I even begin?

Coming out of the closet can be difficult...but it depends on a whole bunch of factors, such as; country, area, culture, ect.

For me, it was quite hard because I was bullied for it. I was even bullied when people just suspected I was, at a time when I wasn't out of the closet.

Back in school I even pretended to date a gay guy, just to try to avoid any suspicion, it worked for some time but the truth came out eventually. I lost someone who I thought was a friend because I came out, they told me that they couldn't be friends with me anymore due to this.

So don't sit there and pretend that being gay is all sunshine and rainbows, because it ain't. You lose people, others gag you on the playground floor, hold you down and kick you with their trainers on, whilst you can only make muffled noises in protest due to one of the kids covering your mouth so you can't speak.

Kids can be cruel. They leave you out in group votes, telling you that your vote doesn't count because you don't count. Sometimes people even spit in your direction in pure disgust, and treat you like dirt. They threaten to punch you, and say that they can "fix you" as if you were broken.

At one point I just grew depressed, and questioned if my life had any value. My teachers told me that "gay people were pointless", peers mocked and devalued me, and I just felt so alone. I tried to put on a brave face, but sometimes the stuff I went through was just too much for me to handle at that time.

Sweetums, people can look at other people. A cat can look at a queen. Men and women look at one another all the time, and there's not a damned thing wrong with it. Looking at someone doesn't constitute harassment or threats. Even looking with admiration or outright lust is just a look. My dog looks at bacon, should I beat him for looking even if he doesn't try to take any?

Following this line of thought, if I look at something in a shop window and linger there, gazing longingly at whatever thing I might like to have, should the shop owner be able to call the police because he doesn't want me looking at what I don't own and amn't going to buy? If I argue for my right to look at things I can't have are you going to decry the PC madness that insists sub-millionaires must be treated with compassion and allowed to look at things just like anybody else?

Nobody can stop you from being homophobic, just as you cannot stop anybody else from thinking you're a small-minded douche for being homophobic. Your mind is your kingdom. Gay guys can look at you, and if you really really insist on it, you can be miserable about it. Not the choice I'd make, but there it is.