suspect 6 year old daughter has something such as aspergers

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09 Jan 2018, 5:35 am

Hi, I have found my 6 year old daughters behaviour to be very strange for a number of years. I have taken a RAADS test online and it has come up with a total score of 195, language 18, social relatedness 96, sensory/motor 39, and circumscibed interests 42 (most questions i could answer very easily but there were around 3 which i was not sure on) i am not really sure what these scores mean or if shes too young for that test and would like some advice please



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09 Jan 2018, 6:11 am

I'm not as knowledgeable on the RAADS test as some other people here (never taken one myself), but judging by those scores, I'd imagine that your suspicion may in fact be correct.

Unless the score is "inverse" in that the higher one scores, the less likely they are to have AS. Again, I'm not an expert on this.


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09 Jan 2018, 8:03 am

While I suspect the online test I took needs to be re-normed*, those values are well within the range to suspect ASD. It is probably worth taking steps toward a formal diagnosis.

*The average neural typical score, both overall and in each sub-category, is at or above the threshold values, indicating possible ASD.


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09 Jan 2018, 9:40 am

In what way is your daughter’s behavior strange?



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09 Jan 2018, 3:57 pm

Hi, she gets very anxious and obsessed over time and routine and struggles with sudden change. Her behaviour is obsessive towards certain objects/ places/ and most of all people. She has HUGE tantrums over the smallest and silliest of things and says that she can't control them or get out of them. She's always been behind others her own age. She cannot concentrate on more than one thing at once, it will often look like she's ignoring or looking straight through people when they're talking to her because she's already concentrating on something else. She has no friends and other children think she's strange and look and her oddly, I think because they don't understand her. She's had a couple of friends in the past but couldn't keep them. She tells constant lies, and has accused people of some very serious things (I definitely know what was said wasn't true) and no matter how many times people explain to her how wrong it is she carries on doing it, sometimes she does it because she thinks it will please the person she's lieing to. Her lies have gotten social services involved in the past and once made my family fall out for a year. She copies other what other people do, she is like a shadow. She will copy what other people order in restaurants even if she does not like what they've ordered, she also pretends not to like cheese because my mum doesn't like it but ask for it at home. She only ever wants to do and talk about things she's interested in, for example if another child wants to play a different game she won't try and and will get very upset. She's very manipulative towards some people. She has a bedroom full of toys but never touches them even though she chose them, she will brag to other children about the toys that she has. so many things to list really... 8O



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09 Jan 2018, 5:53 pm

She also gets attached to people very quickly, and doesn't understand when they've had enough of her even when it's clear to everyone else or even when they've told her. She can obsessively talk about people she doesn't know and who are not interested in her for weeks.
Every day she will count down the days until she sees certain people such as her Nan and Grandad, and if for some reason it does not happen she will get very upset. I understand children get excited to see people, but it seems to go beyond excitement. I noticed on that test it had a few questions about having sensitive hearing and being sensitive to the touch of things aswell. She will hold her hands up to her ears for sounds that bother no one else and even for the softest and smoothest of fabrics to most people she will rip off clothes within minutes and start scratching all over



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09 Jan 2018, 6:09 pm

It may be worth looking up "Pathological Demand Avoidance" to see how well that fits. It's not a formal diagnosis at the moment, but a suggested syndrome describing what seems to be a slightly atypical form of autism. There are a few things you noted that seem to match the description of PDA quite well...

- Feeling that things are beyond her control and cannot be "got out of." Note that this can apply even to something enjoyable that the person actually wants to do, not just to other people's demands which are disliked.
- Needing to be in charge when playing in a group.
- Mimicry of other people and copying their opinions.
- Obsessiveness about people rather than objects or abstract interests.
- Being manipulative to justify preferred behaviour.
- Understanding social rules well enough to manipulate, but with little understanding of the emotional consequences.

There may be other traits that would be common for any autistic person, but the ones above are more specific to the PDA variant.


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09 Jan 2018, 6:14 pm

Thankyou, I will look that up now :)



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09 Jan 2018, 11:10 pm

Here's a link to a test, similar to the AQ test for children ages 3-11:
https://autismcanada.org/about-autism/d ... gI2EvD_BwE


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10 Jan 2018, 2:43 am

A number of those traits are associated with Aspergers but also with other conditions. It is possible to have aspergers and other conditions. Being manipulative or more accurately being good at it would argue against an autism spectrum disorder.

While research is always encouraged since these traits are impairing her, an assesment from a competent psychologist is in order.


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