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28 May 2019, 12:28 pm

Does anyone else get anxiety for no reason or what seems to be no reason. When ever I get off work and just have time to sit and do nothing I I feel anxious like my body can't handle just doing nothing. I feel like I am forgetting something I needed to do. I stimm a lot when this happens.


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28 May 2019, 12:43 pm

Yes, I get this, especially when I think that I've forgotten to do something important. I'm not so bad now that I work evenings, but when I had a job where I had to get up early I felt more anxious.

I also randomly get a bad thought in my head that I suddenly get all worked up about, like losing my home, possessions or loved ones. I often worry about the future.

And I get sometimes anxious about going out, because I worry about people looking at me, being judged, being laughed at, being humiliated, etc. I don't get this every time I go out, just sometimes, for no reason.


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28 May 2019, 1:28 pm

I frequently get anxious for no apparent reason. It’s a lousy feeling.


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28 May 2019, 2:39 pm

Yes I get paranoid something bad will happen

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28 May 2019, 3:13 pm

I went through a period of waking up in the middle of the night and feeling extremely anxious for no apparent reason. The thing that I had been anxious about was no longer a problem but the anxiety was still there. Since then it's always found something to attach itself to. It builds up for months on end and then I fall into a depression, then I'll come out of that and feel OK for a while and the whole pattern repeats itself.



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28 May 2019, 4:22 pm

anxiety disorders are the most common mental health conditions that are usually present with Autism Spectrum Disorder.

Mental health, like Autism Spectrum Disorder, also presents itself in individuals in a spectral manner, with each person likely presenting their own paradigm of symptoms.

One of the reason why people with Autism Spectrum Disorder may be prone to suffering from anxiety disorders is likely connected to the extra complex nature of Autism Spectrum Disorder neurology, which has been proven to exhibit extra complex neural networks when compared to the neural typical individual.

In short, neurologists specialising in ASD have worked on years of research that examines the nature of the ASD patients neural networks when compared with normal people, using fMRI scanner tech.

The neurologists have come to the conclusion using this evidence that the extra networks as well as damage or dysfunction in other areas of the brain, are why people with ASD get sensory overload, as people with ASD pick up more sensory information than normal people.

It is logical to conclude that people with such extra neural networks who pick up more info will thus likely suffer from anxiety due to the extra stress their body and brains are under, as in essence, their brains are picking up more info than normal people but do not have the other areas of the brain developed to match their extra bandwidth of info.
So the part of the ASD brain is put under more pressure than normal people, but with out extra capacity to cope with that extra pressure. Or, due to damage, perhaps even less capacity than average.

Which makes the formula even more problematic, as extra bandwith but less capacity to cope, is a recipe for disaster.
And thus, meltdowns are the result.

I also believe that the part of the brain that deals with stress or stress hormone regulation gets damaged through overexposure to elevated levels of stress hormones over time, which has an impact on the damaged brain to then properly regulate the stress.

I have read also that people who suffer from prolonged exposure to high stress levels, who have this part of their brain damaged (Hippocampus, Amgdyla) go onto to suffering from depression if exposed to elevated stress levels for long enough, and then later on, end up suffering not only from clinical depression but also more complex anxiety disorders.

Unfortunately for us, the modern world is not designed to help people with anxiety, and if anything, is one of the stressors that leads to these types of permanent damages that are caused to the brain.

Also
in people with ASD, it is thought that brain damage may develop somewhere during the early developmental timeline in a persons early pediatric development.

I think it is possible that the damage may occur during pregnancy, during birth or during early life.
Perhaps all three or a combination of the three.

I know for example that pregnancy, genetic disposition, birth and early years are significant for clinical psychologists who are involved in the diagnostic process. So. yup brain damage to the area of the brain that copes with stress is likely and logically going to cause the victim of autism to end up suffering from anxiety. crap deal, yup but there ya go.

Other factors may also play a part, including brain biology.



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28 May 2019, 4:24 pm

I get like this after having too much sensory input, could be this? I usually try to go somewhere dark/quiet and stare into space when I get like this, it seems to calm my nervous system and stop me feeling so highly strung. Oh and I stim as you say. Usually a gentle rocking back and forth.



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28 May 2019, 4:47 pm

madbutnotmad wrote:
anxiety disorders are the most common mental health conditions that are usually present with Autism Spectrum Disorder.

Mental health, like Autism Spectrum Disorder, also presents itself in individuals in a spectral manner, with each person likely presenting their own paradigm of symptoms.

One of the reason why people with Autism Spectrum Disorder may be prone to suffering from anxiety disorders is likely connected to the extra complex nature of Autism Spectrum Disorder neurology, which has been proven to exhibit extra complex neural networks when compared to the neural typical individual.

In short, neurologists specialising in ASD have worked on years of research that examines the nature of the ASD patients neural networks when compared with normal people, using fMRI scanner tech.

The neurologists have come to the conclusion using this evidence that the extra networks as well as damage or dysfunction in other areas of the brain, are why people with ASD get sensory overload, as people with ASD pick up more sensory information than normal people.

It is logical to conclude that people with such extra neural networks who pick up more info will thus likely suffer from anxiety due to the extra stress their body and brains are under, as in essence, their brains are picking up more info than normal people but do not have the other areas of the brain developed to match their extra bandwidth of info.
So the part of the ASD brain is put under more pressure than normal people, but with out extra capacity to cope with that extra pressure. Or, due to damage, perhaps even less capacity than average.

Which makes the formula even more problematic, as extra bandwith but less capacity to cope, is a recipe for disaster.
And thus, meltdowns are the result.

I also believe that the part of the brain that deals with stress or stress hormone regulation gets damaged through overexposure to elevated levels of stress hormones over time, which has an impact on the damaged brain to then properly regulate the stress.

I have read also that people who suffer from prolonged exposure to high stress levels, who have this part of their brain damaged (Hippocampus, Amgdyla) go onto to suffering from depression if exposed to elevated stress levels for long enough, and then later on, end up suffering not only from clinical depression but also more complex anxiety disorders.

Unfortunately for us, the modern world is not designed to help people with anxiety, and if anything, is one of the stressors that leads to these types of permanent damages that are caused to the brain.

Also
in people with ASD, it is thought that brain damage may develop somewhere during the early developmental timeline in a persons early pediatric development.

I think it is possible that the damage may occur during pregnancy, during birth or during early life.
Perhaps all three or a combination of the three.

I know for example that pregnancy, genetic disposition, birth and early years are significant for clinical psychologists who are involved in the diagnostic process. So. yup brain damage to the area of the brain that copes with stress is likely and logically going to cause the victim of autism to end up suffering from anxiety. crap deal, yup but there ya go.

Other factors may also play a part, including brain biology.


There is something here that seems to make sense to me. You mention that people can have issues in different ways. Is it possible that the energy loss I get happens when my mind can't cope with stress, as in something (Sometimes even I don't know what triggers it, but most of the time it is stress or sudden stress) sends me into a kind of almost a faint but I call it energy loss as it is not quite the same, and if I go deep into it I am shaky and also my eyesight starts to go at the same time as loud tinitus sets in at a decresing pitch from a mid tone to a low tone as my eyesight shuts off. (Only get it thag bad if I can't find somewhere quiet to lie down and relax quick enough. Normally I just lie down for a while and wait to recover). I have noticed that when I recover I am sometimes in a state of not quite fully eecovered and I hear people spwakinb to me but it does not make sense. In other words, my brain has not captured what they are saying and as I am struggling to try to recover I find myself saying yes to their "Do you understand" just because I need extra time to recover, as if I said "No" they would try to repeat what they say when it takes effort to try to listen to them.


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28 May 2019, 7:18 pm

Going on the earlier, lengthy comment, you can also be born with epigenetic vulnerabilities to environmental stressors that are greater than the average person, especially if you come from a family with a generational history of trauma or adversity.

So these issues with the amygdala and hippocampus can be caused through less stress stimuli.

Anyone who copes with these amplified levels of stress for too long will likely have issues with anxiety.

I also have an issue where it's difficult to feel at rest and where I get fixated on negative experiences and fears about the future. I can literally tell the difference in terms of my ability to feel relaxed and positive vs. the experience of my younger self when life was much simpler and quieter. It feels like something permanent has changed in my experience of reality, and while it can be managed, it cannot be undone.


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28 May 2019, 7:46 pm

KeepOn wrote:
I get like this after having too much sensory input, could be this? I usually try to go somewhere dark/quiet and stare into space when I get like this, it seems to calm my nervous system and stop me feeling so highly strung. Oh and I stim as you say. Usually a gentle rocking back and forth.

Yeah I have found that finding a small dark space helps. Like hiding under a blanket or something. So I guess it could be to much sensory exposure. I just need to remember to do that when it gets bad.


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29 May 2019, 3:36 am

Goob234 wrote:
Does anyone else get anxiety for no reason or what seems to be no reason. When ever I get off work and just have time to sit and do nothing I I feel anxious like my body can't handle just doing nothing. I feel like I am forgetting something I needed to do. I stimm a lot when this happens.


I get something a bit like that, often after work and towards the end of the work week, when I need to stop thinking about work and relax or move on to home activities. I suddenly get really wound up, like all the stresses of the week re-surfacing, and I might have to go for a walk to try to calm down.



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29 May 2019, 9:25 am

Yes. I have been very anxious lately. I had a huge pain in my chest yesterday.



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29 May 2019, 9:37 am

Commonly, and I hate it


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29 May 2019, 7:04 pm

I at least have periods of anxiety every day and it seems to be manifesting more in the last year or 2 physically, like in my chest and my stomach. I just feel kind of jittery and sometimes tense. I'm on medication for it and I have 2 therapists and all that helps, but yeah it's still hanging around me often like a a damn monkey on my back or something. Just one of those bloody ASD symptoms.



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29 May 2019, 7:17 pm

Yes, this happens to me too. I think it probably does arise from the overstimulation of our senses. I sleep a lot to get over it.


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29 May 2019, 8:07 pm

I used to think that

Situation (minus ) resources equal anxiety

But the worst case scenario is subject to imagination. Unlimited

Nobody has an unlimited number of resources


So that does not justify anxiety