The question of IQ(thoughts welcomed)

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This by Dr. Natalie Engelbrecht
MSc, RP, ND
Co-founder, psychotherapist,
diagnostician & researcher
diagnosed in 2017

https://embraceasd.com/autism-and-high-iq/

A contrasting view by Paul Cooijmans . He designs high range IQ tests.

A quote from his article .

I oppose Coojiman’s ideas.

It is difficult to see the "science" of IQ testing as more scientific that the story of the five blind men and the elephant. In biblical terms "we see through a glass darkly".

Considering that there is major difficulty in even defining what intelligence is, declaring that one has achieved accuracy in measuring it in fractional degrees of differentiation seems ambitious.

There is actual science that is beginning to shed light on the development of neurological variability. Some observe brain "overgrowth" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7sYLtq0_F8 and consider it a defect.

I suspect that if one investigates neurological speed, sensitivity, and growth one will find a variety of combinations such that there is overlap between what is observed as intelligence and Aspergers.

I suspect that once real science has narrowed down the cause of the biological differences, it will be the mathematics of statistics and the science of genetics that will shed light on how these various elements manifest.

I doubt that Paul Coojmans has the resources to properly standardize his IQ tests, and any test for high IQs is going to be very difficult to standardize at all because the higher the IQ, the smaller the portion of the population that fit the criteria.

Beyond that, the linked article gives no information about which cognitive abilities his tests cover and little information which cognitive abilities he considers to comprise intelligence. So I see no reason to compare his opinions to the opinions of people who are referencing professionally created and standardized IQ tests.

His views about who has Asperger's are suspicious because he says near the beginning of the article

I read a lot about this several years ago. Basically, if you are on the autism spectrum, don’t take any IQ test too seriously. As of when I was reading about it, there did not seem to be a way to accurately test autistics of any functioning level.

An IQ test is comparing the person to a white, western, ”CIS” male, of the most common cognitive functioning. There is no real way to adjust for any other “type” of person. Some things, like race, will throw off the test a little, but major things like a different way of perception or a non-western socialization will throw it off a lot. For example, how would a person from a never-contacted Amazonian tribe do on an IQ test? What about a person from the future? Or the past?

It’s really just a general guide.

What's comes across from reading his articles is that he is more than a little arrogant ,and has a very negative attitude re those on the spectrum and those with mental health problems .
His superior intelligence doesn't stop him from offering ill informed comments on autism/Asperger's .

Its easier to get published if you have that kind of attitude. It is hard to work in academia without a weakness-oriented view of diversity. Meaning that if someone is different it must be a problem.

People with AS can definitely be very smart, that much is obvious...overall I would tend to trust the other site (not Cooijmans), given that autistic people have been cited as having higher-than-average IQs in other places, and AS being on the high-functioning side of autism. It's likely that Aspergerians are going to have the highest IQs as a group of those with ASD.

Hmmm, I've always heard that folks who are on the high-functioning end of the spectrum tend to have average to above average intelligence. I've also heard the stereotype that folks with Asperger's are all extraaordinary geniuses. I haven't known too many adult aspies in real life, but the one I did know seemed very intelligent and has a PhD (not that intelligence and education are always correlated, but they often seem to be ). I have known a lot of kids on the spectrum from my years spent working in schools, and most of them seemed to be above average in intelligence. But I don't think all of them could be considered extraordinary geniuses! And, to get more personal, I definitely do not fall into the extraordinary genius category!

That being said, I kind of wonder if we sometimes put too much weight on intelligence. I'm not so sure that how smart a person is necessarily tells us whether that person is a good person. In other words, I don't think intelligence is everything.

By the site and article, I'd say one mistakes cerebral intellect for performance and adaptation.

I don't believe autistics inherently have 'low intelligence' when counting all areas of intelligence, as much as autistics are actually all socially slow.


Why??
We still live in an education system that doesn't appropriately develop any lags of any kind that isn't involved speaking and able to physically pass.
Had this been untrue, the tragedy of impulsiveness wouldn't be so prevalent. Had this been untrue, people at large wouldn't be so easily manipulated.

Even NTs long for an education system that encourages different approaches, several of which don't heavily emphasized on words.

Why else they'd typically go to school for socializing and typically hates classes?
They dislike classes because the teaching styles are too narrow -- can it be the same with NDs and so-called deviants with the narrow social settings?


TLDR; to me, it's the same as accusing the misunderstood and neglected for idiocy by being systematically rendered useless.

I'd say human cultural had yet to break their own bubbles, and educational progress had yet to catch up to match their own technological progress.

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