Do you ever..? (a random collection of my thoughts)

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22 Oct 2007, 12:13 pm

Feel exasperated at being overly sensitive to certain events that others just seem to brush off?

Feel that you are lacking control of your life as a result of this oversensitivity, that the only way to keep control of your moods is by cocooning yourself away from the variation of day to day life?

Dislike the idea of being labelled uncaring or disinterested in others welfare, as a result of lacking in the ability to intuitively predict what others are thinking?

Resent the idea of "lacking empathy", when you feel your own concern and compassion towards others is seemingly higher than most "normal" individuals?

Have trouble improving and maintaining self esteem, constantly feeling life is too overwhelming for you to sustain your energy, ideas and interests? That you will never know or reach your potential, achieve your dreams or contribute to society in a full capacity?

Have trouble projecting and maintaining a consistent outward identity, feeling like you are a social chameleon?

Find that altruism, or interacting with others by being an unusually good listener, or showing a high level of concern, without the intention of manipulation or personal gain, is one of the few enjoyable ways to interactive with others?

But wonder if that notion is really your actual good nature, or if it's just a ploy to improve your sense of self worth?

Feel as though you are able to have a profound, intellectual interest in certain areas of life, but also have a real lack of understanding in other aspects, which is markedly different from your intellectual peers?

For example - feeling more comfortable listening to commercial/pop music, or watching TV; than say listening to "higher brow" alternative or classical music, or going to the theatre, opera etc - stuff that the more "executive" people do?.. despite being able to uphold rich conversations on philosophy, computing, trivia etc.

Strongly identify with many of the traits of AS (or HF etc), but have doubts to the validity of a specific diagnosis with such a large, varied, or vague set of criteria? That is to say, where exactly do you fit in all of this, and who, if anyone, can you truly understand or be understood by?

Feel as though typing bullet points, in what should be a flowing chain of thought, should not have taken 45 minutes to compose, or needed to be proof read four times before you are happy that it is (hopefully) discernible enough to read!

Well, if you can identify with any of this please let me know, I will add to this when I can think of more to ramble on about. :)



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22 Oct 2007, 12:48 pm

Feel exasperated at being overly sensitive to certain events that others just seem to brush off?

Yes. there's been occasions where i've mentioned something again later and everyone else is like "what?" :? coz they've forgotten all about it

Feel that you are lacking control of your life as a result of this oversensitivity, that the only way to keep control of your moods is by cocooning yourself away from the variation of day to day life?

Yeh

Dislike the idea of being labelled uncaring or disinterested in others welfare, as a result of lacking in the ability to intuitively predict what others are thinking?

YES! God that's annoying

Resent the idea of "lacking empathy", when you feel your own concern and compassion towards others is seemingly higher than most "normal" individuals?

Yes. That is also realy annoying

Have trouble improving and maintaining self esteem, constantly feeling life is too overwhelming for you to sustain your energy, ideas and interests? That you will never know or reach your potential, achieve your dreams or contribute to society in a full capacity?

All the time...

Have trouble projecting and maintaining a consistent outward identity, feeling like you are a social chameleon?

I did. Until i stopped socialising with practically everyone apart from those who understand

Feel as though you are able to have a profound, intellectual interest in certain areas of life, but also have a real lack of understanding in other aspects, which is markedly different from your intellectual peers?

Yeah. That's one of the major problems at the moment

For example - feeling more comfortable listening to commercial/pop music, or watching TV; than say listening to "higher brow" alternative or classical music, or going to the theatre, opera etc - stuff that the more "executive" people do?.. despite being able to uphold rich conversations on philosophy, computing, trivia etc.

Haha yeah!

Strongly identify with many of the traits of AS (or HF etc), but have doubts to the validity of a specific diagnosis with such a large, varied, or vague set of criteria? That is to say, where exactly do you fit in all of this, and who, if anyone, can you truly understand or be understood by?

Yes. Definately



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22 Oct 2007, 1:32 pm

yes, yes yes and yes


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22 Oct 2007, 5:34 pm

Bightme wrote:
Feel exasperated at being overly sensitive to certain events that others just seem to brush off?

YES

Feel that you are lacking control of your life as a result of this oversensitivity, that the only way to keep control of your moods is by cocooning yourself away from the variation of day to day life?

YES

Dislike the idea of being labelled uncaring or disinterested in others welfare, as a result of lacking in the ability to intuitively predict what others are thinking?

YES

Resent the idea of "lacking empathy", when you feel your own concern and compassion towards others is seemingly higher than most "normal" individuals?

YES

Have trouble improving and maintaining self esteem, constantly feeling life is too overwhelming for you to sustain your energy, ideas and interests? That you will never know or reach your potential, achieve your dreams or contribute to society in a full capacity?

TO A DEGREE

Have trouble projecting and maintaining a consistent outward identity, feeling like you are a social chameleon?

YES

Find that altruism, or interacting with others by being an unusually good listener, or showing a high level of concern, without the intention of manipulation or personal gain, is one of the few enjoyable ways to interactive with others?

I DID

But wonder if that notion is really your actual good nature, or if it's just a ploy to improve your sense of self worth?

NO, IT'S NATURAL

Feel as though you are able to have a profound, intellectual interest in certain areas of life, but also have a real lack of understanding in other aspects, which is markedly different from your intellectual peers?

CERTAINLY

For example - feeling more comfortable listening to commercial/pop music, or watching TV; than say listening to "higher brow" alternative or classical music, or going to the theatre, opera etc - stuff that the more "executive" people do?.. despite being able to uphold rich conversations on philosophy, computing, trivia etc.

ACTUALLY, I LIKE classical! Most "executive" types I know don't act like they do.

Strongly identify with many of the traits of AS (or HF etc), but have doubts to the validity of a specific diagnosis with such a large, varied, or vague set of criteria? That is to say, where exactly do you fit in all of this, and who, if anyone, can you truly understand or be understood by?

YES

Feel as though typing bullet points, in what should be a flowing chain of thought, should not have taken 45 minutes to compose, or needed to be proof read four times before you are happy that it is (hopefully) discernible enough to read!

YES

Well, if you can identify with any of this please let me know, I will add to this when I can think of more to ramble on about. :)

OKY DOKY!



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22 Oct 2007, 5:53 pm

Yes, mostly.

I'm particularly interested in what you said about being a "social chameleon", as I have found it possible to fake my way into various groups. I was even a sorority girl! Always it was a facade, though. I suppose since I didn't really fit in with any group, I got used to putting on whatever mask I needed.



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24 Oct 2007, 7:31 pm

I have a few more randoms..

When watching a movie that really catches your attention, do you feel almost surreal afterwards, especially if you've been in the enclosed darkness of a cinema, only to then step out into bright light and jostling people?

Do you ever find your mood can shift markedly throughout the day, in the space of a few hours, or even minutes, much more so than is typical?

Do you find that daily events, whether they are foreseen by you or not, can have a strong effect on your perception of self and your "position" within society?

Do you struggle to make sense of your fluctuating moods and emotions, that there seems to be factors beyond your control when it comes to self empowerment?

Do you ever wonder if there is something that you might be allergic too, that is responsible for changes in your energy, concentration levels etc, but you can't make sense of what it might be, and there is no medical evidence to back it up as far as you are aware?

But do you then question, if some (or all) of the above just act as subconscious excuses, for not enforcing the change you (seemingly) need?


Rynessa wrote:
Yes, mostly.

I'm particularly interested in what you said about being a "social chameleon", as I have found it possible to fake my way into various groups. I was even a sorority girl! Always it was a facade, though. I suppose since I didn't really fit in with any group, I got used to putting on whatever mask I needed.


Sounds like me, well, apart from the fact I wasn't a sorority girl! (that I let people know of anyway :P )

I also have always been able (and I really don't know how I've done it) to conform and settle into a certain niche, that seemingly makes most people OK with me, it's not the REAL me, but i don't know what is half the time.



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24 Oct 2007, 8:48 pm

basically yes to all of that



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24 Oct 2007, 9:26 pm

Bightme wrote:
For example - feeling more comfortable listening to commercial/pop music, or watching TV; than say listening to "higher brow" alternative or classical music, or going to the theatre, opera etc - stuff that the more "executive" people do?.. despite being able to uphold rich conversations on philosophy, computing, trivia etc.

At best, classical music makes good ambient music for a sophisticated-seeming café. Opera is just a bore. In some ways, my intellect is also fairly high, but I don't especially enjoy most aspects of so-called high-brow culture. I think most people adopt an interest in classical music, theater, and opera and a taste for wine because they have pretensions towards sophistication (which overrules the inherent lack of pleasure they achieve from it).

I see culture, the arts, and literature as the more NT end of intellect. More aspie-friendly applications of intelligence tend towards more academic pursuits: the sciences (especially the physical and earth sciences), mathematics, engineering, and even some philosophy. Of course, just as many NTs enjoy these things, aspies too can enjoy and even excel in art, music, literature, the social sciences, and so forth.



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27 Oct 2007, 6:36 am

NeantHumain wrote:
At best, classical music makes good ambient music for a sophisticated-seeming café. Opera is just a bore. In some ways, my intellect is also fairly high, but I don't especially enjoy most aspects of so-called high-brow culture. I think most people adopt an interest in classical music, theater, and opera and a taste for wine because they have pretensions towards sophistication (which overrules the inherent lack of pleasure they achieve from it).


See, I used to think that, and it may well be true for some people, but I have also come round to the idea that people just have different cultural tastes, depending on how much they can "appreciate" the difficulty, complexity etc of a given act.

For somebody like myself, who has little understanding of the real level of artistic production that goes into creating music, tends to have fairly simplistic tastes. I get somewhat annoyed at people who can't seem to understand that, they always seem to be the same types, you know, guitar playing, longish hair, spotty, cynical and full of hate, denouncing anything remotely pop orientated or commercially successful as being the spawn of the devil. OK, maybe I'm stereotyping a little bit there, but those kind of alternative music freaks tend to rub me up the wrong, much more so than classical music fans.

Am I really that much less of a person for thinking Radiohead's music (best example I can think of) sounds like a load of incoherent, whiny gibberish? I don't think bad of a person who doesn't have much depth of knowledge in computers for example, I understand they simply want something that meets their needs, something that works for them; so why are some (seemingly broadly intelligent) people such bad emphasisers when it comes to "taste"?



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27 Oct 2007, 9:20 am

I enjoy a wide variety of music, but tend to prefer upbeat and happy music of all genres. I dislike morose music of any kind, whether Classical or popular.



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10 Nov 2007, 10:11 pm

9CatMom wrote:
I enjoy a wide variety of music, but tend to prefer upbeat and happy music of all genres. I dislike morose music of any kind, whether Classical or popular.


I just dislike music where the lyrics ar'nt decipherable to my ears, which is the case with most "alternative" modern bands. It almost seems the more coherent a song, the more "pop" and hence less cool it becomes. :P

Music is a bit of a mystery to me..



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10 Nov 2007, 10:48 pm

Yes to all that stuff you said.

About music: I like music from almost every genre. I also like listening to music in foreign languages that I don't speak, particularly Irish and Japanese. It allows me to invent my own story for the music. Also I like hearing the sounds of the language itself.



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11 Nov 2007, 12:53 am

makes sense