Nt's have lack of social cues too

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Especially when you tell them you aren't interested in them romantically.

Scenerio. A guy approaches and keeps giving you compliments, talks about sex and you tell him to back off and you aren't interested. Even bluntly telling him doesn't make him walk away, he continues on with his chat. You tell him again you aren't interested, he asks you for your phone number. You tell him no, he asks again.

Then you get a lecture from this supposed social cue expert about what YOU should change about yourself like quit being so honest? Yeah whatever, how about you learn what no means.

You are sitting alone. Someone decides they are going to sit and talk to you. You aren't in the mood to talk about football teams. You tell them you aren't interested in football. Rammble rammmble FOOTBALL, rammbble rammmble favorite football team. Sports is goooddddd. You sit there quietly looking in the opposite direction to zone off into your own world and the person is still talking about football.

One person tells a joke that makes you laugh but the person sitting next to you that is socially acceptable has a puzzled look on their face and doesn't find it funny.

Another person tells a joke that doesn't make you laugh but the person sitting next to you is laughing.

So while some of us may not pick up on hints, I've found that some people have difficulty with picking up on blunt cues.

What makes us so different?

I figure it's a sense of entitlement by whoever, NT or Aspie. I've been sitting quietly reading when people continually interrupt, or I've told someone I'm not interested in them, only to be constantly badgered. I guess they feel entitled to their intrusions.

I want to have an experiment. Instead of being calm about such unwanted intrustions, I'm going to be rude. Just to see what happens.

I don't think it's always correct to say that NTs are good at reading social cues. Some NTs are quite good at it -- those would be the ones that you may not have noticed because they didn't bother you when you wanted to be left alone. Some NTs are terrible at reading social cues.

I think there is a huge range of "social cue reading" ability in NTs. Some can figure out -- with amazing accuracy -- what a perfect stranger is thinking just from a glance at the face. Others have almost no ability to read social cues. You'll find the full range.

Well with NTs, they can choose to ignore your cues. Perhaps that is what they were doing with you and didn't care about you.
Are you sure they were NTs, it's possible they were on the spectrum too and you just didn't even know about it.
It's even possible NTs can lack that NT trait. After all an NT won't have every single NT trait just like an aspie won't have every single aspie trait.
Not picking up on cues is also part of NVLD so it's possible some of them could have had that. I don't know any other conditions that also share that trait but I know NVLD does.


Look at it this way, you are no different. If NTs can have aspie traits too, why can't you so you are no different.

Spokane, Sorry but if you have one trait that is NT or AS it doesn't make you NT or AS. I didn't just look at the person, it was pretty obvious after conversing. Just about as obvious as others knowing who is a loner or independant thinker.

I find that there is just too much emphasis on socially correct norms and people tend to pick at those that don't require alot of friends or go out alone. It's considered weird. So why is it completely okay for someone to categorize someone as weird immediatly by looking at their posture or observing that they are alone?

What truely affects me the most with my so called disorder are bright lights, certain sounds, panicky and sometimes feeling lost and when others note that I'm a little off. I can tell when someone is not a little off and others that are considered normal by societies standards through conversation.

I also use another sense to gather hidden information. Alot of times in the past I denied it. It was to see how accurate it was. It just didn't seem logical at the time and actually it still doesn't make alot of sense.

These things don't come to me through facial expressions, it comes from somewhere else and it's hard to figure out how.

I feel that sometimes aspergers is what is considered a disorder now but before psychiatry existed was labelled as brilliant when it was okay to be alone, when it was okay to enjoy the dim lights of candles, when it was also a good trait to be honest. Society has morphed into a flashy bright lighted up stage show with manipulative actors who think honesty is a flaw and privacy is not to be respected. Being an individual means you are weird and being out alone means you are weird too.

I have noticed though that people who usually have and feel a need to have a group of friends surrounding them to feel big and bad, when they are alone suddenly they look insecure and akward.

I think I actually read somewhere that in at least one study people who score well on Theory of Mind tests give better directions, but actually follow directions worse because they assume they know what the other person is thinking when they really have no idea. "Delusions of Clairvoyance" indeed.