Is AS nothing more than low self esteem?

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19 Dec 2007, 12:41 pm

I am seeing a new psychologist. She has me already feeling better about myself. It makes me wonder if having AS is nothing more than really low self esteem. Maybe low self esteem is a significant contributor to AS.



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19 Dec 2007, 12:45 pm

Um, no. People with AS can certainly develop low self-esteem, usually due to frustrations with social interaction or being constantly bullied and told they're a freak, but AS in and of itself is not defined by low self-esteem. The correlation does not infer causality.



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19 Dec 2007, 12:45 pm

thats weird thought because before I started not fitting into social groups and lost my best friends to other NT cliques suddenly my self esteem dropped from medium to zero an i just let my obsessions overtake my life an try to forget about living on earth anymore

I think AP has to do with ppl gettin low self-esteem once they realize there not compatitible with 90% of the NT's which are everywhere in our lives then it has to do with self-esteem causing AP



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19 Dec 2007, 12:46 pm

I think you could get low self esteem from having AS, eg; from being bullied, told you are stupid [if this happened to you].
I don't think that AS is low self esteem...it is proven that in some with AS, there are noticable differences in a brain scan compared to an NT...having low self esteem would not cause that.


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19 Dec 2007, 12:48 pm

Self-esteem & confidence, & controlling anxiety... Is all I need... ( Without Drugs ( None have worked on me anyway yet ) ), don't really care about the rest as that is just a part of me... anyway they say opposites attracted - so then bad social communication would be someone who is good :P



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19 Dec 2007, 12:51 pm

I have been told by people who are not qualified to know any better that that is the crux of my problem....and I tell them that they were not with me through the nightmare of elementary school...low self esteem does not explain my toe-walking and motor issues and face-blindness spatial issues and executive dysfunctions....Perhaps I would not have developed low self esteem if I had not been prepetually teased and harassed by students and teachers for being "different"....
This does not mean that Low Self Esteem is not a very powerful element with strong capabilities of negatively affecting many aspects of a person's life....and I do have low self-esteem...but I think my neurological issues are congenital.



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19 Dec 2007, 12:53 pm

I don't have low self esteem, and think many people here don't. I have met people with VERY low self esteem that were STILL OBVIOUSLY NT! So NOPE, NO CORRELATION!



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19 Dec 2007, 1:00 pm

You do know they say they "Think" As is caused by this & that...

Its like me saying "I think the Sky is Blue because the solar system is blue"

If you look at " Introverts to the front " in a search engine, you will see introverts have different brain structure to Nts... & both of them know jack about each others research... & autism research is 60 autistics & 52 normal boys...



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19 Dec 2007, 1:06 pm

The two may go hand in hand, but I don't think it's a simple as that...


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19 Dec 2007, 1:37 pm

Many therapists will try to make you believe that your problem is one that is solvable through therapy and not an inborn one. You do have to put her kids through university afterall !

After putting a few kids through university while I wasn't able to afford university for myself, I know better than believe a therapist that says my problem is just solvable through paying her huge amounts of money.


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19 Dec 2007, 1:48 pm

Obviously introversion is not Asperger's. If anything, Asperger's helps cause introversion.



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19 Dec 2007, 1:48 pm

AS is waaaaay more than a matter of self esteem.


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19 Dec 2007, 1:53 pm

Does anyone feel AS can be beaten through therapy? My psychologist has me believing it can.



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19 Dec 2007, 1:58 pm

It can be helped... and if the stressful traits are being diminished, with the good traits showing, then good. :)


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19 Dec 2007, 2:04 pm

I would disagree. I don't have low self esteem.

It is good that you are feeling better, but your AS will not vanish. :wink:



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19 Dec 2007, 2:05 pm

ProtossX wrote:
thats weird thought because before I started not fitting into social groups and lost my best friends to other NT cliques suddenly my self esteem dropped from medium to zero an i just let my obsessions overtake my life an try to forget about living on earth anymore

I think AP has to do with ppl gettin low self-esteem once they realize there not compatitible with 90% of the NT's which are everywhere in our lives then it has to do with self-esteem causing AP


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