Christopher Gillberg - what a lovely guy

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[quote="Whenever these eggheads start quoting statistics or draw their conclusions therefrom,
I am reminded of two books that I've read and should be in every Aspies library:
How to Lie With Statistics by Darrell Huff and Irving Geis &
The Mismeasure of Man by Stephen Jay Gould [/quote]
I think Mark Twain once said something like: "There are big lies, colossal lies, and statistics".

Gillberg is famous, and created tests, and to THINK I thought about checking them out. Anyway, I never hid the fact that I didn't like him. This is just the LATEST bit of garbage he has said about AS.

As for me? If I was NORMAL, I would probably be a serial murderer or something. Something in me just prevents me from even really thinking about it. I have had a LOT of abuse though.

To blame ALL the crime on such a rare ailment, ESPECIALLY when most such crime is done in an environment that we HATE, and requires feelings we really don't have, and a wanton disregard that we don't have, is RIDICULOUS!

On the ppt slide, that guy does NOT sound like he has aspergers. HFA maybe, or maybe something else.

Still, the fact that gillberg views them as having met HIS criteria really skews the results. BTW, I don't fit the "Speech and language problems" section of "unstoppables" criteria list.(one, MAYBE two, but certainly not 3)(I would say sometimes c(Mentally probably quite a bit),d(sometimes), and/or e(VERY rarely). But to say that sometimes is good enough would water down any meaning.) I bet many here don't.

That's the kind of misconceptions people take a view of. I am more likely to be a victim than the attacker even if I do know self-defence. I also don't just end up swinging at someone coz I don't like the way they talk, dress, laugh, smile, drinking or taking drugs while commiting that act, I would expect them to rule out the AS, so on, & normal people commit tons of crimes... If no one is looking & they think they can get away with it, they do it, & the fact most keep it behind closed doors, so no one really knows...


Just when an As type person does it it's blown out of the water, with all the other stuff they slap onto it, like withdrawn, no friends, kind of stuff, implying that normal people cannot be that way & be more angry at not having friends they just automatically imprint that view onto it.

& lots of normal people have mood swings, anger manegement problems, & a hole list of other things...

Gillberg's criteria is almost identical to the original criteria set by Dr. Asperger.

Yeah, and LFA is also. Still, it seems to be quite different from various observations he made.

I must say that I am unaware of any of the information regarding Gillberg that has been posted here other than his strange diagnostic criteria. However, I must point out that he wrote an article in the January 2007 issue of the Journal of Autism and Developmental Disorders, which was a five year followup of people who had been diagnosed with AS, compared to being diagnosed with autism. The main conclusion of the paper was that the people with AS fared worse than he expected. As for criminality, I think that 10% of the AS subjects he studied had some sort of run-in with the law, which he said was not an unusual percentage in Sweden.

I must say that I don't really think his diagnostic criteria make all that much sense. Especially in the case of all the language difficulties, as I always thought that AS was supposed to entail lack of language difficulties.

BINGO! That is part of what I have been saying since I first heard that garbage.

His criterion makes perfect sense in the context of the autistic spectrum. It explains Asperger's adequately, i.e., someone who has autism, but gained the ability communicate verbally without too much difficulty.

It separates those who are verbal/non-verbal, and I don't see how that's a problem; those who have no speech, or a marked impairment in communicating are lower down on the spectrum compared to those who can communicate (for the most part).

You just described LFA<->HFA! We are talking about HFA<->AS.