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31 Mar 2009, 2:06 pm

Anyone else noticed that they share many stereotypes (youthful appearance, high intelligence, nerdyness)?



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31 Mar 2009, 2:12 pm

That is patently racist.

I am asian and an aspie.

I see no cultural connection.



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31 Mar 2009, 2:17 pm

Stereotypes are at best things that are common enough to have become associated with a race, gender, region, etc. They are not diagnostically relevant, in my estimation. What is the purpose of your post?


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31 Mar 2009, 2:19 pm

Yes, stereotypes of race are racist. But the OP specifically mentioned that many stereotypes are shared between Aspies and Asians.

And for the record, this Aspies adores his beautiful Asian wife.


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31 Mar 2009, 2:32 pm

I'm half Asian and I don't see a correlation between race and AS behaviour...at least not in my family.



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31 Mar 2009, 2:40 pm

^ Don't confuse causation with correlation. The former implies or defines a direct link, while the latter describes a mere coincidence.

And the shared stereotypes are merely coincidental.


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31 Mar 2009, 3:26 pm

No, I don't see any links or connections.


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31 Mar 2009, 3:34 pm

There are real differences between people and races; at least at the biochemical level which I studied. So I am a bit allergic to the word 'racism' in response to the OP. People should be able to ask questions, when done in decent way. Using the word 'racism' prematurely is killing (scientific) thoughts and discussions and a danger to the freedom of speech.

There could be certain patterns in behavioural stereotypes of certain cultures or races. But linking them to a condition that is found across nations, cultures and races (like autism is) is a bit far-fetched.
You find shared characteristics with Scandinavians or Russians or whatever.

And probably your stereotypes about Asians were a bit questionable to begin with; since I have counted more non-nerd people from Asian decent than nerdy people in my surroundings. (like that is statistically relevant...)



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31 Mar 2009, 3:43 pm

Signs654 wrote:
Anyone else noticed that they share many stereotypes (youthful appearance, high intelligence, nerdyness)?


I knew one asian that didn't fit these stereotypes and I even mentioned it to him. I wasn't being racist but I thought it was funny the way they often stereotype asians especially in movies.

I thought him highly intellegent but I think that would depend on what you define as intellegent.

Anyway, I guess to some extent it looks a bit aspie-ish but then again there are stereotypes to that as well. I'm not bright in math or philosophy but I'm real into music and have a lot of creative interests. Maybe that makes me an artsy fartsy bohemian nerd. :nerdy:


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31 Mar 2009, 3:46 pm

animeboy wrote:
That is patently racist.

I am asian and an aspie.

I see no cultural connection.


I agree. I may not be Asian but I've had enough experience with all people to realize that everyone is different. There are Asian Jocks who do not fit your definition at all. Just as Aspies come from about every background.



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31 Mar 2009, 4:18 pm

Asterisp wrote:
There are real differences between people and races; at least at the biochemical level which I studied. So I am a bit allergic to the word 'racism' in response to the OP. People should be able to ask questions, when done in decent way. Using the word 'racism' prematurely is killing (scientific) thoughts and discussions and a danger to the freedom of speech.

There could be certain patterns in behavioural stereotypes of certain cultures or races. But linking them to a condition that is found across nations, cultures and races (like autism is) is a bit far-fetched.
You find shared characteristics with Scandinavians or Russians or whatever.

And probably your stereotypes about Asians were a bit questionable to begin with; since I have counted more non-nerd people from Asian decent than nerdy people in my surroundings. (like that is statistically relevant...)


Scandinavians, please explain? and dont worry, i wount call you a racist....:) Racist and Racism is a overly used term that hardly qualifies for the most part, while discrimination (a rounder word) may be a more suitable word if you ask me...



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31 Mar 2009, 4:21 pm

I am not sure about China, but Japanese people are closer to the spectrum. I can also tell you that Jamaicans are farthest away from the spectrum. With a general lack on interest in scientific subjects and a tenancy to be religious. Also, I have never seen a black aspie woman,(;_・)

There is a strong feminine gene in both Asian men and woman. They are even on average shorter then the average non-Asian.

Afro-American/ Caribbean have a high masculine gene. When I was at Salsa, there was three black girls, they had serious arms on them, they was unrelated and they didn’t pump iron. This scenario would be rare among Asian woman, unless they was Olympic athletes or enthusiasts. Even I am taller and more masculine looking then your average white Alpha Male. O(≧∇≦)O


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31 Mar 2009, 4:47 pm

Aspie_Chav wrote:
I am not sure about China, but Japanese people are closer to the spectrum. I can also tell you that Jamaicans are farthest away from the spectrum. With a general lack on interest in scientific subjects and a tenancy to be religious. Also, I have never seen a black aspie woman,(;_・)

There is a strong feminine gene in both Asian men and woman. They are even on average shorter then the average non-Asian.

Afro-American/ Caribbean have a high masculine gene. When I was at Salsa, there was three black girls, they had serious arms on them, they was unrelated and they didn’t pump iron. This scenario would be rare among Asian woman, unless they was Olympic athletes or enthusiasts. Even I am taller and more masculine looking then your average white Alpha Male. O(≧∇≦)O


I have gut feeling they are not lovers.Image


I have seen several black Aspie woman. A few of them are in the Harry Potter community and one is on You Tube. I believe that a vast majority of perceived differences in people are cultural, not biological. You also have to understand that most of us are coming from a biased perspective of a western country. The Asians you have the most experience with are more affluent, achievement motivated, and have a passion for learning. They will tend to give off that nerdy Asian vibe. The ones leaving their country for the west are the smartest Asians who will of course be "nerdy" in ways.



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31 Mar 2009, 4:54 pm

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she's pretty:)



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31 Mar 2009, 5:00 pm

Vulcan wrote:
Aspie_Chav wrote:
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she's pretty:)


African immigrants are comparable to Russian immigrants, especially the woman. They are often skinny, fit, and good looking. I think its a cultural thing yet again.



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31 Mar 2009, 11:45 pm

The nerdiness and math skills.
I'm not saying it's true. It's "just a stereotype"(for asians).