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04 Jun 2008, 12:21 am

Hello, I am having trouble distinguishing between the two. I would appreciate if someone could contrast, and maybe compare if need be. :D
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04 Jun 2008, 12:49 am

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Asperger’s and Autism share primarily the difficulty of recognizing the existence of others—trouble with theory of mind. Asperger’s can talk; autism usually has limited speech.

Asperger’s children appear less interested in forming bonds and have more trouble with “theory of mind” than NVLD and Sematic-Pragmatic Disorder.

NVLDs are marked by integration problems of pragmatic language gestalt; spatial orientation; and motoric coordination.


Taken from here.

People with NVLD have problems with pragmatic language, which in turn is why they have difficulties with socialization; those with AS and Autism have problems with pragmatic language (Autism has semantic too), plus a lack of empathy/theory of mind (i.e., recognizing that people are "real" and distinct from their own thought processes), which in turn equates to a greater level of social impairment.

Those with NVLD have stereotyped interests, they're just not as all-encompassing as those with AS or Autism.

NVLD also has marked deficits in spatial knowledge in comparison to those with AS.

It's possible to have both conditions. Just like it's possible to have an auditory processing disorder without AS (the former is a part of the latter).



04 Jun 2008, 8:46 am

People with NVLD also have troubles with non verbal language and body landuage, reading people. But they also have troubles like remembering where a place it at like if I had NVLD, I might be unable to know where the bus stop is to get to work and know where my work place is at downtown. It can take someone with NVLD two years before they can remember where their work place is at and their bus stop they have to go to.


Also the fact people with NVLD have to be talked to how to do things, not shown it. I suppose that means when you are trainging someone with NVLD for their work position, you have to use words as you tell them how to do soemthing, not just do it and have them watch you. You have to explain how to do the work.



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04 Jun 2008, 10:50 am

I have NVLD. Although I am very social, I have the most absolute hardest time with faces. I could not memorize a face if my life depended on it. I'm also bad with the expressions of faces as well, unless it's a movie or something. Directions, though, is something I'm fairly good at. If I'm walking to a friend's house, I'll have trouble but if I'm driving somewhere, I don't really have any problem with it.

As for learning, I'm definitely a visual learner. If I only hear it, I'm going to be screwed big time. Back in gym class, we often did obstacle races and the teacher would always explain what we were supposed to do out loud. I always made my team mates go before me so I could *see* what they were doing because otherwise, it made no sense.



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04 Jun 2008, 12:28 pm

From what I was reading, people with NVLD tend to be very bad at math, wheras peope with AS are not.

But I'm sure this is one of those things that varies from person to person.


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04 Jun 2008, 12:33 pm

Yeah, I suck at math. However, I've always had outstanding writing skills.



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04 Jun 2008, 3:19 pm

From what I've read, it's a subtype of NLD that has difficulty with math (it is the majority though), although this distinction is not often made on websites that discuss NLD. I have an NLD diagnosis, but I aced calculus in high school. The necessary characteristics of NLD (from what I've read) are problems with visual/spatial processing, visual-motor coordination, and social skills. Frequently, difficulty with visual-spatial perception is accompanied by math difficulties, but not always, especially if the kid is taught coping skills (relying on verbal strengths and reasoning your way through with self-talk). I do have major problems with my perception of space by the way, and can't even get to the movies in the town I've lived in my whole life, but I can do math. My mom is a psychologist, and she taught me from a young age how to talk my way through my nonverbal reasoning issues.



04 Jun 2008, 7:56 pm

Bad at Math? Define that. Do they mean like algebra or calculus or any other abstract math or do they just mean the basic math; division, times, addition, subtraction?



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05 Jun 2008, 10:50 pm

Spokane_Girl wrote:
Bad at Math? Define that.


It didn't specify.


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