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23 Aug 2008, 3:25 pm

Does anybody have such a non-standard relationships to their body?

When I was a kid, I always wondered how my thinking related to my body. I felt as if it was just a shell of sorts that I was in. From which I saw the world. Something somewhat separate from my mind, because it seemed so complicated and hard to navigate through my surrounding with a body. While at the same time, it was so easy to do things in my mind alone.

The feeling, through much strong in my childhood, has persisted.

ASD related?


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23 Aug 2008, 3:52 pm

yes, the body is like a giant pet you have to drag around with you everywhere you go - you have to feed it, clean it and keep it out of trouble.

As I've gotten older I'm more used to it though, feels a bit more natural.



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23 Aug 2008, 4:34 pm

this is one of my recent "revelations", I seem to be much less aware of my body. I first noticed when I developed panic disorder because the doctors started asking about what was physically going on, did I have sweaty palms or was my heart pounding or anything, and, I was perplexed. Who has time to notice if their palms are sweaty when overwhelmed by pure, illogical terror that has no discernible source? When I did focus on physical sensations to be able to tell them what was going on somewhere besides my mind, I realized I could only use mind words for the feelings I had. My knees get nervous, my back is confused, and I have no idea how to explain these feeling any other way.

As usual, I had no idea that I was not perfectly average in my awareness and connection with my body.

I think perhaps we have figured out why those Greco-Roman philosophers all came up with the mind-body split with the boy being this base thing that all the bad feelings like anger and passionate desire came from, whilst the mind was this far better entity capable of so much more....


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23 Aug 2008, 4:40 pm

I don't notice mine until it hurts. I tend to misjudge where I am in space in relation to doorways etc, so I usually have a bruise or two. I broke my big toe a couple of weeks ago because I bashed it on the bed caster.. :roll: Should probably have bumpers fitted! Lol.



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23 Aug 2008, 4:50 pm

oh yes. that whole space issue. I've broken my little toe several times because of that. Stupid physical world.


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23 Aug 2008, 5:12 pm

Yes, matter does have a nasty habit of reminding us if its importance in reality.


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23 Aug 2008, 9:05 pm

One of the famous Christian Saints called his body "Brother Ass", meaning a donkey.



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23 Aug 2008, 9:19 pm

Starr wrote:
I don't notice mine until it hurts. I tend to misjudge where I am in space in relation to doorways etc, so I usually have a bruise or two. I broke my big toe a couple of weeks ago because I bashed it on the bed caster.. :roll: Should probably have bumpers fitted! Lol.


Me too I'm always bumping my shoulders or hips into corners or other people.



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23 Aug 2008, 9:53 pm

I have often heard the phrase mind, body and spirit and I figured that they must be three different parts that make up the whole yet are seperate. My mind is my reasoning and thinking, my body is my tool to interact witht the world, and the spirit I do not fully understand yet but that is one of my inerests, is finding out.


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23 Aug 2008, 11:16 pm

I am irked by Cartesian dualism.

It's interesting that people would have proprieception related problems. Phantom limb syndrome and related somatosensory stuff is my latest fascination. Bumping into things and bruising yourself 'cause you're not sure where the edges of your body are is normal for people, like teenagers, who have recently changed sizes.



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24 Aug 2008, 7:51 pm

Yes, I also have a "non-standard relationship" with my body, which is to say that my mind and my body never seem to be on the same page.



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24 Aug 2008, 7:54 pm

What is a "standard" relationship with ones body?



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24 Aug 2008, 7:58 pm

Electric_Kite wrote:
I am irked by Cartesian dualism.

It's interesting that people would have proprieception related problems. Phantom limb syndrome and related somatosensory stuff is my latest fascination. Bumping into things and bruising yourself 'cause you're not sure where the edges of your body are is normal for people, like teenagers, who have recently changed sizes.


But not for 35 year old women who always have a bruise on their knee from banging it into their desk in the exact same way every single day. Or who routinely drop things, reach down to pick them up and smack their forehead on the table. Or who can't wear hemmed pants with heels because their heels get caught in their hems and they fall on their face.

I think I get angry when I hurt myself because it's always in the most idiotic ways. I have actually gotten a paper cut on my cornea from waving papers around in front of my face. Yeah, the body just gets in the way.