Brain waves reveal language struggle of autistic kids

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02 Dec 2008, 10:04 pm

It looks like they may have finally found a physical test for autism.

http://phoenix.cox.net/cci/newsnational/national?_mode=view&_state=maximized&view=article&id=D94QL0502&_action=validatearticle

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02 Dec 2008, 10:27 pm

wish it had more information versus catchy statistics.

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02 Dec 2008, 10:40 pm

they had an article in USA Today. The picture looks like they have some kid in the mother of all salon hairdryers. Evidently we process speech too slowly.

Kinda wonder what part of the spectrum they're testing...

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02 Dec 2008, 10:40 pm

When they diagnose so early, what, specifically, to they do to the kid?
Is early diagnosis good or bad?

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02 Dec 2008, 11:58 pm

Good.

The whole, people with autism don't want to talk thingy as children/adults gets old. You know, I'd like to greet people and talk to people to be cordial, but I have this mental block that I can't circumvent, and when I was younger it was blocking far more than just social niceties and many mechanical interactions.

It should work on all people with Autism (no matter the label)--it even states that it was tested on someone with "mild" autism. Auditory processing problems are a part of all of the ASD labels, as are visual, and these are generally thought to be caused by connectivity in the brain (problems with white matter).

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03 Dec 2008, 12:02 am

Tahitiii wrote:

Is early diagnosis good or bad?

Well, speech therapy should help, and the younger it's applied, the better the outcome. Nerves can improve their signal strength via use; if they aren't used, they'll stay damaged in the same way, but if they're used, they can improve.

This is the same with many types of neurological disorders. There's only a certain level of improvement that can be made, as the myelin sheath will never repair itself how it was before the damage done, but there can be improvement.

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03 Dec 2008, 12:03 am

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but I have this mental block that I can't circumvent, and when I was younger it was blocking far more than just social niceties and many mechanical interactions.

stuttering and not being able to speak unless speaking louder? I do that too.

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03 Dec 2008, 12:05 am

But what, specifically, do they do?
What little I've heard just sounds like more abuse.

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03 Dec 2008, 12:12 am

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stuttering and not being able to speak unless speaking louder? I do that too.

Nah, just the inability to transcribe my thoughts to words. It's like writing with a pen without ink; nothing comes out. Sure, I can point and stuff, or make wildly grandiose gestures (I still do this when I'm talking to the rare few people I can talk to; Daniel does little hand movements as the words come out to explain what he is saying).

For example, when I go shopping with my mother, and we get these large bottles of water, I'd like to tell the small females behind the counters that they don't have to move it after they've scanned the price tag, and I'll carry it to the trolley, but I can only point at the handle with my hand. They understand this gesture, so it all works out.

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03 Dec 2008, 12:16 am

Tahitiii wrote:

But what, specifically, do they do?
What little I've heard just sounds like more abuse.

I can't remember much of mine, but the nice lady just had me repeating things she said and did, repetitively. No abuse there, perhaps other than me staring incessantly at the extremely large and hairy mole on her arm each time I went there (I thought it was interesting).

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03 Dec 2008, 12:19 am

Tahitiii wrote:

But what, specifically, do they do?
What little I've heard just sounds like more abuse.

Perhaps they can infer autism from the amount of abuse children cop from doctors?

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03 Dec 2008, 2:31 am

Danielismyname wrote:

the inability to transcribe my thoughts to words. It's like writing with a pen without ink; nothing comes out.

That's me. So why don't the shrinks think it's important? Why can't they hear me when I say "aphasia?" The last one said I'm just depressed, and that I need a counselor. For what, he didn't say.

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I can't remember much of mine, but the nice lady just had me repeating things she said and did, repetitively.

Sounds pointless. Did it do any good? Did it make any difference at all? Other than waste your time and taxpayer money?

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03 Dec 2008, 7:48 am

gbollard wrote:

Tahitiii wrote:

But what, specifically, do they do?
What little I've heard just sounds like more abuse.

Perhaps they can infer autism from the amount of abuse children cop from doctors?

That's what I was thinking. I'm glad that I'm not a small child, today.

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03 Dec 2008, 7:53 am

CockneyRebel wrote:

gbollard wrote:

Tahitiii wrote:

But what, specifically, do they do?
What little I've heard just sounds like more abuse.

Perhaps they can infer autism from the amount of abuse children cop from doctors?

That's what I was thinking. I'm glad that I'm not a small child, today.

Gosh, me too.

And the rest of my family.

In the old days there was corporal punishment though...

What if some interventions are unhelpful or aggravate the condition?

Just a thought.

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03 Dec 2008, 9:05 am

Tahitiii wrote:

That's me. So why don't the shrinks think it's important? Why can't they hear me when I say "aphasia?" The last one said I'm just depressed, and that I need a counselor. For what, he didn't say.

Sounds pointless. Did it do any good? Did it make any difference at all? Other than waste your time and taxpayer money?

1: The psychiatrist I see thinks that it's important, and he even told me to carry a pen and some paper with me everywhere I go, and to utilize written communication as much as possible, whether written or typed. Since verbal isn't my strong point, he's pretty much saying to ignore it as it's not going to get any better now, as I've improved as much as my brain will allow in regards to such.

2: It kinda got me talking properly in a mechanical setting; without such, I would have stayed how I was, and that was speaking in third person and mixing up pronouns constantly (as well as using incorrect words in sentences). It didn't waste my time at all, and my [financially poor] parents had to pay for it. It's kinda like saying learning to speak is a waste of time; some people can do it without any help, whilst others need help to reach a passable level.

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03 Dec 2008, 9:36 pm

Tahitiii wrote:

Danielismyname wrote:

the inability to transcribe my thoughts to words. It's like writing with a pen without ink; nothing comes out.

That's me. So why don't the shrinks think it's important? Why can't they hear me when I say "aphasia?" The last one said I'm just depressed, and that I need a counselor. For what, he didn't say.

This is why I'm so glad to see that there may be a physical test for autism. Then stupid doctors couldn't say that you don't have a problem, that you're just depressed. You would have proof of your autism.

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