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The doctor said I'm not an Aspie, but my ADD/OCD issues explain the symptoms.

The main thing she said is that I don't have the wild mood swings that would have to be present with Aspergers. Also, I don't have a problem with change, which is a big Aspie thing.

Wild mood swings? That's the first I've heard about that.

Although I do tend to have these a bit, I've never heard it related to AS.

Change is a bit of an AS thing though.

Yeah, I've never heard of wild mood swings being association with Asperger's or autism. Tantrums, yes, but that's not the same as a mood swing, plus, a kids thing. So very strange for someone to say not just that it's associated with Asperger's, but required.

I'm also sceptical on the idea of ADD being something separate from the autism spectrum. From what I've read, I think they are interrelated.

I think different professionals have different ideas of what Aspeger's is. It's main advantage as a label seems to be that so many people on the spectrum don't fit the doesn't-talk-or-interact autism stereotype.

Wild mood swings? You mean like crying then laughing when nervous?

ADD is separate. They've done factor analysis of symptoms, and they plot separately, if I remember the details right.

And I would think bipolar mood swings would be separate, too. Though we can be comorbid.

But yeah, difficulty with change can be a big thing.

I'm guessing he's reffering to the inability to 'regulate' feelings that I have heard discussed here. Seems to be relatively common but is not a diagnostic criteria. Problems with change is a big one too, but again, not diagnostic (unless you mean the criteria that talks about rituals, in which case you can still get an AS diagnosis without that if you exhibit other traits listed under number 2).

Wild mood swings? That sounds like a stereotype/generalization to me. I know I have a tendency to freak out when provoked by certain sensory stimuli, but most of the time I'm pretty mellow (default mood has been described as "brooding")

It's a pity that second opinions are often expensive and not much better than the first. It can take a few shots before you find a competent doctor.

I understand about change, but wild mood swings? If I could ask, what does it mean? I don't think I've heard about it being related to AS or Autism.

Maybe for other disorder but I know I am totally disappointed about this forum. Totally lack of class.

It seems like any sinful forum for probably quite sinful autists.

I am not autistic but I have wrong AS diagnosis in my country diagnosis of nonverbal learning disorder doesn't exist.

"I AM NOT AUTISTIC"

I have a hope that we aren't any autists but i search the real doctor (in my country isn't).

Autistophobia

troll

...when I hear crap like that.
That's one doctor who should get out of the business. If you haven't even learned the most basic details, how can you charge money from your paitents/victims and live with yourself?

Are you saying that you have been diagnosed as an aspie and don't agree with this diagnosis (you have this right), seek or another one closer to what you think you have (it's your right again) and so you think talking, conversing, debating ont this forum is a bad thing ? Even though it can help some people feeling better and more normal (like me) ?

What country is that?

I have wild mood swings but I thought that was just pms.
I've always hated change. I'm getting better at dealing with it though.

Yeah, sounds like your doctor is generalising. I've met some doctors that said I couldn't have AS because I can talk to people and have good literacy skills.

My mother once told me, when I was a child, that my mood is like a roller coaster. Up and down! Changes fast, and to the extreme. I can still be like that I guess.

Dislike with change.. This one can be hard to associate if you ask me. What kind of change? Well, I was told as a kid I would FREAK OUT if any meal I had gotten had something "broken". Like bread, taco shells, things like that. I would throw a huge fit and declare it inedible. I guess that would be dislike in change or routine of eating? I don't like my environment to change. By that, I don't mean my personal surroundings, but my computer/gaming environment, or perhaps a web pages color scheme. Overall, a lot of change doesn't bug me, but I do know SOME does. So, by "change", I would have to ask for an explanation, and not something so general and ambiguous.

I do have wild mood swings at times, but I've honestly never heard of them being associated with the autism spectrum. (although I have heard of an aversion to change).

The symptoms of Asperger's Syndrome are quite broad though, and your doctor could be one of those psychiatrists who believe that it is becoming overdiagnosed and instead looking for other rational explanations to your symptoms rather than furthering the problem.

If you look at each individual symptom of Asperger's listed on the diagnostic chart, you'll notice that each are sometimes found in regular (neurotypical) individuals from time to time. For this reason, along with the false views of the disorder that the media and Wikipedia promote, incorrect self-diagnoses tend to occur often. (This is the reason why I'm still listed as "Not sure if I have it or not" even though I'm very sure that I have it.)

A smart doctor knows this and will therefore consider everyone who complains of having Asperger's Syndrome to be a hypochondriac unless they have conclusive evidence that their symptoms can not be reasonably explained by other conditions.