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12 Feb 2009, 1:15 pm

i have read repeatedly that sarcasm is an un-aspie trait, aspies dont understand it, etc, but i make daily, even hourly use of it, generally understand it in others, and in fact can't understand slapstick.
i realise aspergers is a spectrum disorder, we're all different blah blah blah, but ive never read anything to the contrary, yet people on here seem to use it too. are we a minority?

is sarcasm un-aspie??
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12 Feb 2009, 1:20 pm

I used a lot of sarcasm early, since that's kind of a family tradition. The concept of saying something but meaning the opposite is also quite simple to me. I try to refrain from doing that here though. I don't know whether the mere fact of saying the opposite of what one means is supposed to be problematic for a verbal autistic person.

It is however very problematic for me to convey that sarcasm and to understand the sarcastic remarks of other random people. These 2 I can't do and that's (stereo)typical for ASDs.


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12 Feb 2009, 1:27 pm

Its different for everyone. Maybe some people like me, were brought up with it. So we just learnt about it. Sometimes I can't tell when people are being sarcastic though.


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12 Feb 2009, 1:32 pm

Ironicsue topic

I prefer irony and the double entendres because they are humourous, but I can use sarcasm when I am angry about something.

Someone once asked me recently if I was being sarcastic or serious in a post I wrote. Perhaps irony is a sort of mixture of the serious (literal) and the sarcastic!!

I do not understand verbal sarcasm, and I take it literally, or so I have been told. :?


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12 Feb 2009, 1:41 pm

I've always been very sarcastic, ever since I was in pre-school. That's just the way some people are.



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12 Feb 2009, 1:52 pm

i suspect it maybe a case of being able to use it, but struggling more when on the receiving end of it.
I can formulate and deliver sarcasm.
But i am very clueless when it is directed at me.

wordplays are fine and creative and i can catchh on to some of them

jokes in conversation? i am the last one to ever understand and they mostly need explaining to me. i cannot process them fast enough.



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12 Feb 2009, 1:57 pm

I often make sarcastic or ironic remarks. Recently, when someone was going on about those Twilight novels, I noted in a deceptively sincere tone of voice what a great role model the protagonist is for teenage girls--she's willing to abandon her life, future career and everything for some strange guy she met. (Keep in mind that I've never read any of these; I was just having some fun.)

So I can be sarcastic easily enough. But I don't as often detect sarcasm in others; I have to either guess or already know them pretty well. Still, I'm much better with it than the standard clinical description of AS would lead one to believe.



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12 Feb 2009, 2:01 pm

but isn't a necessity. You get a dx because you meet enough of the criteria, but you don't need to meet them all.
I get most of it and use it quite a lot. But sometimes I do take things seriously or don't get the joke, and of course that's just when it's clarified. So who's to say I don't miss it and never find out I missed it?



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12 Feb 2009, 2:07 pm

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So who's to say I don't miss it and never find out I missed it?


This is an ongoing concern of mine. :?



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12 Feb 2009, 2:16 pm

Without sarcasm, my humour would be limited to stupid wordplay. In fact, I've actually been admonished for being TOO sarcastic. However, I only catch sarcasm a little more than half the time from others, quite a bit still goes over my head.



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12 Feb 2009, 2:24 pm

For me it's definitely an aspie trait of mine...or human behavior. I don't really know how all behavior defines aspergers except neurological functionings and that which makes us seemingly different when socializing among Neurotypicals.

I notice when I try to be humorous, it comes off inappropriately or not that funny. My dad has always been like this...except I think his timing and tone was better expressed than mine.

Sense of humor comes off a bit dry and odd whenever I try and emulate it to others. I get more loads of trouble doing this than for laughs.

Some people are just naturally born with this talent to be sarcastic than others.... :(


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12 Feb 2009, 2:34 pm

its just one of many autism myth's such as we have no empathy, or that we are all genius's.



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12 Feb 2009, 2:36 pm

MissConstrue wrote:
I notice when I try to be humorous, it comes off inappropriately or not that funny.


This seems to be the very problem people have with my sarcasm. It's rarely ever meant as malicious, but apparently there are certain things that are simply taken as malicious just by mentioning them. :(

In the case of misreading sarcasm in others, though, I have myself taken things people have said as malicious when they weren't meant as such, but have also taken things as sarcastic and funny when they were either meant as malicious, or simply meant seriously.


MissConstrue wrote:
Sense of humor comes off a bit dry and odd whenever I try and emulate it to others. I get more loads of trouble doing this than for laughs.


A lot of people's humour strikes me as clunky and simply not funny. Any time I've tried to copy it, it seemed just as un-funny....I honestly don't know what others thought of it, but I thought it just sounded stupid.



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12 Feb 2009, 2:39 pm

spudnik wrote:
its just one of many autism myth's such as we have no empathy, or that we are all genius's.


i am a genius.



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12 Feb 2009, 2:41 pm

saintetienne wrote:
spudnik wrote:
its just one of many autism myth's such as we have no empathy, or that we are all genius's.


i am a genius.



So am I...and I'm also hilariously funny....at least to myself, anyway.



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12 Feb 2009, 2:47 pm

haha, I was being sarcastic :P