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Do you fit the critera for autism as well as AS?
Yes, but only when I was younger. 12%  12%  [ 3 ]
Yes, I still fit the criteria very well. 42%  42%  [ 11 ]
Yes, but barely. 27%  27%  [ 7 ]
No, I've never fit into the criteria for autism. 19%  19%  [ 5 ]
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22 Feb 2009, 2:28 pm

I was wondering if those with AS could also meet the criteria for autism easily, or roughly, or if not at all, etc. Here's the criteria:

(I) A total of six (or more) items from (A), (B), and (C), with at least two from (A), and one each from (B) and (C)

(A) qualitative impairment in social interaction, as manifested by at least two of the following:
1. marked impairments in the use of multiple nonverbal behaviors such as eye-to-eye gaze, facial expression, body posture, and gestures to regulate social interaction
2. failure to develop peer relationships appropriate to developmental level
3. a lack of spontaneous seeking to share enjoyment, interests, or achievements with other people, (e.g., by a lack of showing, bringing, or pointing out objects of interest to other people)
4. lack of social or emotional reciprocity ( note: in the description, it gives the following as examples: not actively participating in simple social play or games, preferring solitary activities, or involving others in activities only as tools or "mechanical" aids )
(B) qualitative impairments in communication as manifested by at least one of the following:
1. delay in, or total lack of, the development of spoken language (not accompanied by an attempt to compensate through alternative modes of communication such as gesture or mime)
2. in individuals with adequate speech, marked impairment in the ability to initiate or sustain a conversation with others
3. stereotyped and repetitive use of language or idiosyncratic language
4. lack of varied, spontaneous make-believe play or social imitative play appropriate to developmental level
(C) restricted repetitive and stereotyped patterns of behavior, interests and activities, as manifested by at least two of the following:
1. encompassing preoccupation with one or more stereotyped and restricted patterns of interest that is abnormal either in intensity or focus
2. apparently inflexible adherence to specific, nonfunctional routines or rituals
3. stereotyped and repetitive motor mannerisms (e.g hand or finger flapping or twisting, or complex whole-body movements)
4. persistent preoccupation with parts of objects

(II) Delays or abnormal functioning in at least one of the following areas, with onset prior to age 3 years:

(A) social interaction
(B) language as used in social communication
(C) symbolic or imaginative play

(III) The disturbance is not better accounted for by Rett's Disorder or Childhood Disintegrative Disorder



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22 Feb 2009, 3:04 pm

Here's what fit me

(A) qualitative impairment in social interaction, as manifested by at least two of the following:
1. marked impairments in the use of multiple nonverbal behaviors such as eye-to-eye gaze, facial expression, body posture, and gestures to regulate social interaction
3. a lack of spontaneous seeking to share enjoyment, interests, or achievements with other people, (e.g., by a lack of showing, bringing, or pointing out objects of interest to other people)
4. lack of social or emotional reciprocity ( note: in the description, it gives the following as examples: not actively participating in simple social play or games, preferring solitary activities, or involving others in activities only as tools or "mechanical" aids )
(B) qualitative impairments in communication as manifested by at least one of the following:
2. in individuals with adequate speech, marked impairment in the ability to initiate or sustain a conversation with others
3. repetitive use of language
4. lack of varied, spontaneous make-believe play or social imitative play appropriate to developmental level
(C) restricted repetitive and stereotyped patterns of behavior, interests and activities, as manifested by at least two of the following:
1. encompassing preoccupation with one or more stereotyped and restricted patterns of interest that is abnormal either in intensity or focus
2. apparently inflexible adherence to specific, nonfunctional routines or rituals
3. stereotyped and repetitive motor mannerisms (e.g hand or finger flapping or twisting, or complex whole-body movements)


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22 Feb 2009, 3:06 pm

When I was real little I did because of my speech delay thanks to my hearing loss and I also repeated phrases my mom said. So I met three or four from the second part. My play skills grew as I got older. By age four, I could do pretend cooking and pretend ironing my clothes.


So me meeting it when I was little probably didn't count because of my hearing loss.



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22 Feb 2009, 3:36 pm

All of them, as a child and adult. That's what I'm diagnosed with "officially", so it fits.

Of note, you need to supply the expanded text which explains each criterion in-depth, as the criteria themselves can be easily interpreted incorrectly.



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22 Feb 2009, 4:03 pm

Did as a kid, not sure if I still do now.

Obviously I still meet A and C because I have AS. All of A and all except the special interest of C.

About B I'm not so sure.

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1. delay in, or total lack of, the development of spoken language (not accompanied by an attempt to compensate through alternative modes of communication such as gesture or mime)


Never fit me.

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2. in individuals with adequate speech, marked impairment in the ability to initiate or sustain a conversation with others


Had that as a kid but not anymore. Just very slightly which I think doesn't count.

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3. stereotyped and repetitive use of language or idiosyncratic language


Yes, but in such advanced way that I don't think it counts anymore because they didn't mean such advanced scripts or the far more complicated use of repetitive and idiosyncratic language. (All the explanations are really basic and do not take into account that with more vocabulary and grammar ability the actual presentation can be far more complicated but still largely repetitive and idiosyncratic)

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4. lack of varied, spontaneous make-believe play or social imitative play appropriate to developmental level


I do not play anymore. If I relate that to reality, then I no, I do not spontaneously imitate social affairs around me and often also forget to do it after I have thought about it which gives me a lot of trouble.


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22 Feb 2009, 4:19 pm

For me: All of A, 1 of B, all but #2 of C, but more than 1.



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23 Feb 2009, 12:42 am

Childhood: 3/2/3, A&B.

Current: 2/1/3, A.

So yes.


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23 Feb 2009, 12:53 am

yes. That is what I am diagnosed with.