How do you tell if a person is a Schizoid and not an Aspie?

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22 Feb 2009, 4:58 pm

How do you tell?



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22 Feb 2009, 5:26 pm

The symptoms? Particularly hallucinations.



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22 Feb 2009, 5:28 pm

Age of onset?
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22 Feb 2009, 5:32 pm

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The symptoms? Particularly hallucinations.
Schizoid personality disorder doesn't involve hallucinations. It is basically an extreme personality type that involves very strong introversion and a tendency towards either lack of emotion or lack of emotional expression.

You can tell the difference because an autistic person can be extroverted, and because he will have much stronger social and language delay, and will have some sort of repetitive activity or intense interest that the schizoid will not have. Actually, if you see someone with language delay, special interests, or stims, you can almost certainly say that if he has either one, it's autism.

If someone with just schizoid personality disorder has a social skills deficit, it will be purely from lack of practice. With autism, it is innate.

You cannot technically be diagnosed with both, but I believe it is possible for an autistic person to also have schizoid traits.


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22 Feb 2009, 5:36 pm

Since wrote:
The symptoms? Particularly hallucinations.


Schizoids don't have hallucinations.

The diference is supposed to be the "stereotyped behaviours and interests" of aspies.



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22 Feb 2009, 6:08 pm

well how it is known that schizoid isn't just autism without stereotyped behaviors and interests then???



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22 Feb 2009, 6:12 pm

Ah right. I assumed schizoid was slang for schizophrenics. Stand by the first part of my answer though.



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22 Feb 2009, 6:17 pm

No one can be diagnosed with a personality disorder until they are at least 18 and after that age it gets more challenging, figuring out the correct diagnosis.
Someone with AS would have a special interest and might be more extroverted, since AS can mean social but awkward.



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22 Feb 2009, 6:21 pm

buryuntime wrote:
well how it is known that schizoid isn't just autism without stereotyped behaviors and interests then???


Or, eventually, how it is known that autism isn't just schizoidism plus stereotyped behaviors and interests? :) (well, autistics can be extroverts...)



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22 Feb 2009, 6:24 pm

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
No one can be diagnosed with a personality disorder until they are at least 18 and after that age it gets more challenging, figuring out the correct diagnosis.


I could be wrong, but I think that an under-18 can be diagnosed with a personality disorder (except Anti Social Personality Disorder) if the symptoms are present for more than 1 year.



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22 Feb 2009, 9:01 pm

Taken straight from the DSM-IV-TR on differential diagnoses of AS:

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The relationship between Asperger's Disorder and Schizoid Personality Disorder is unclear. In general, the social difficulties in Asperger's Disorder are more severe and of earlier onset.


Probably the same thing, but they only differ in severity (like the whole, LFA to HFA to AS thingy).



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22 Feb 2009, 9:46 pm

schizoids can seem very 'old' even when young, world weary cynical kind of 'old'.

anhedonia.

they actually do understand social phenomena in a way aspies don't. ie they have social skills abilities.



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23 Feb 2009, 12:55 am

I really, REALLY wish we could get a concrete, provable, bulletproof genetic test for ASDs (prenatal screening implications be damned). I was personality disorder NOS (not otherwise specified) before AS, and I get the feeling that my neuropsych was leaning towards schizoid personality, but then with the sensory issues that I have that schizoids don't...

But then, there are criteria that I don't fit that I'm SUPPOSED to for AS...

It's just a huge mess. Right now I'm "officially" AS, but since there's still no way to unequivically prove it, I'm not sure I believe it.

And of course, my mom doesn't. So when she makes noise and I go into a panic attack, she tells me to "snap out of it".