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03 Oct 2007, 10:36 pm

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Moral issues tend to matter in the Bible belt.


Not the right ones, though.


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03 Oct 2007, 10:39 pm

Quatermass wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
Moral issues tend to matter in the Bible belt.


Not the right ones, though.


Depends whose morality you subscribe to.



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03 Oct 2007, 10:40 pm

iamnotaparakeet wrote:
Trigger11 wrote:
Quatermass wrote:
Trigger11 wrote:
Quatermass wrote:
NoNameRockBand wrote:
Quatermass wrote:
My patron saint, Miranda, came to me in a vision........

....and told me to remain silent. :lol:


oh...kool. Who's Miranda?


Ghk!

*Keels over in shock.*

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miranda_warning


Well...Texas...Dubya...Do I need to continue? :roll: :(


......

No, but Dubya doesn't come from Texas. He was Governor of Texas, though....

....which accounts for a lot.


...and why he was "supposedly" elected...twice. :roll:



Moral issues tend to matter in the Bible belt.


"Moral Issues" is code for "Stealing your liberties because we don't like them."

It's a democracy, you have the right to do anything you want without damaging others and their property without their consent.

Marry your cactus, marry your pet cat, eat yourself to death, drink (but no drunk driving for obvious reasons) and smoke.



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03 Oct 2007, 10:42 pm

iamnotaparakeet wrote:
Quatermass wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
Moral issues tend to matter in the Bible belt.


Not the right ones, though.


Depends whose morality you subscribe to.


Modern democracies need to use "Libertarian Relativism" model to protect the rights of citizens.

Do what you want as long as no one is injured or their property damaged without their explicit consent.



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03 Oct 2007, 10:43 pm

BOSTON RED SOX 2004 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS!! !! !! !!


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03 Oct 2007, 10:44 pm

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It's a democracy, you have the right to do anything you want without damaging others and their property without their consent.


Sorry, that is not a democracy. Even so, the USA is a Republic.



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03 Oct 2007, 10:45 pm

The USA is a republic.


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03 Oct 2007, 10:47 pm

Flagg wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
Trigger11 wrote:
Quatermass wrote:
Trigger11 wrote:
Quatermass wrote:
NoNameRockBand wrote:
Quatermass wrote:
My patron saint, Miranda, came to me in a vision........

....and told me to remain silent. :lol:


oh...kool. Who's Miranda?


Ghk!

*Keels over in shock.*

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miranda_warning


Well...Texas...Dubya...Do I need to continue? :roll: :(


......

No, but Dubya doesn't come from Texas. He was Governor of Texas, though....

....which accounts for a lot.


...and why he was "supposedly" elected...twice. :roll:



Moral issues tend to matter in the Bible belt.


"Moral Issues" is code for "Stealing your liberties because we don't like them."

It's a democracy, you have the right to do anything you want without damaging others and their property without their consent.

Marry your cactus, marry your pet cat, eat yourself to death, drink (but no drunk driving for obvious reasons) and smoke.


Except smoking should only be done in your own home, but never around children. If done outside, it adversely affects others and their health. I am extremely sensitive to tobacco smoke. My eyes burn and I get nauseous if it is 300 feet away.


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03 Oct 2007, 10:47 pm

iamnotaparakeet wrote:
Flagg wrote:
It's a democracy, you have the right to do anything you want without damaging others and their property without their consent.


Sorry, that is not a democracy. Even so, the USA is a Republic.


Sadly only in theory, it's a federalist dictatorship.

And yes, this is only a component of a successful democracy. Not the whole, a free society also has freedom to worship and to irreligion, freedom of the press, freedom to make money in the pursuit of happiness, freedom to fail.

Freedoms a democracy lacks: Right to be unoffended, right to dictate the lives of others, right to define morality to others if they do not bring harm to others or their property.



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03 Oct 2007, 10:48 pm

Trigger11 wrote:
Flagg wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
Trigger11 wrote:
Quatermass wrote:
Trigger11 wrote:
Quatermass wrote:
NoNameRockBand wrote:
Quatermass wrote:
My patron saint, Miranda, came to me in a vision........

....and told me to remain silent. :lol:


oh...kool. Who's Miranda?


Ghk!

*Keels over in shock.*

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miranda_warning


Well...Texas...Dubya...Do I need to continue? :roll: :(


......

No, but Dubya doesn't come from Texas. He was Governor of Texas, though....

....which accounts for a lot.


...and why he was "supposedly" elected...twice. :roll:



Moral issues tend to matter in the Bible belt.


"Moral Issues" is code for "Stealing your liberties because we don't like them."

It's a democracy, you have the right to do anything you want without damaging others and their property without their consent.

Marry your cactus, marry your pet cat, eat yourself to death, drink (but no drunk driving for obvious reasons) and smoke.


Except smoking should only be done in your own home, but never around children. If done outside, it adversely affects others and their health. I am extremely sensitive to tobacco smoke. My eyes burn and I get nauseous if it is 300 feet away.


Agreed, you are infringing on the health of others by smoking in public (damaging their health without their consent)



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03 Oct 2007, 10:49 pm

Quatermass wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
Moral issues tend to matter in the Bible belt.


Not the right ones, though.


:wink: :lol: 8)


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03 Oct 2007, 10:49 pm

yvaN_ehT_nioJ wrote:
The USA is a republic.


Constitution-based federal republic with a strong democratic tradition.



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03 Oct 2007, 11:05 pm

I dedicate this win to the memory of KingCrimson. :cry:


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03 Oct 2007, 11:06 pm

What happened to KingCrimson?


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03 Oct 2007, 11:07 pm

Awesome band it was and the forumer was just as good.



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03 Oct 2007, 11:14 pm

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