Joined: 9 Jan 2009 Age: 64 Gender: Female Posts: 9,852 Location: Australia
21 May 2010, 9:10 pm
Should apply to men as well, I think. And loyalty and humility are fine as long as they're not carried to extremes- loyalty can be abused and too much humility can result in someone being treated as a doormat. It's fine in principle, though.