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06 Mar 2007, 6:19 pm

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Ah! I always preferred Old Peculiar.


Just the label alone makes me want some. Very apt, that phrase "Four pints and you don't really see the afternoon". Sigh.

What is the Admiralty? Is that the British Navy? And are commoners allowed in a Royal Park? Water rats would be the umm... sailors? And the locks on the Thames - all of it sounds like a sight to see. And kippers are...some kind of dried fish?

(Did anybody notice I changed my location as a result of this discussion? I'll talk about food and drink all day and night...even it is about kippers and spam - hey, that'd make a great name for a pub!)



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06 Mar 2007, 6:23 pm

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[Lancashire's a great county. You have the big towns like Preston and Blackburn, the lovely cathedral city of Lancaster (the county town) and the wonderful countryside and fells of the Ribble Valley. I live in a little town called Longridge, just inside the Ribble Valley. The accent ain't bad either, though you will get some daft buggers from Yorkshire who insist that their accent is better. ;) You can see more of Lancashire on my photostream (http://www.flickr.com/photos/lancashire/).


Being word obsessed, I've wondered about this - why spell it Worcestershire but pronounce it Worster, and why is Lancashire not Lancastershire if it's near Lancaster? And if it was spelled Lancastershire would you pronounce it Lancashire? Oh my, I love being on WP, I would normally never dream of asking obsessive questions like this!



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06 Mar 2007, 6:26 pm

pub named "Kippers and Spam"

roflmao

I had a dream once to walk Hadrian's wall, stop at every pub along the way and get to know the folks around those parts. Actually had the money to do it, not along ago. Now I sort of feel like, "if it ain't got an escalator, I ain't goin". That is a quote from an old bunky of mine in the army days. He was offered a commison to go to West Point, he didn't take it. One of the smartest guys I ever had the pleasure to meet.



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06 Mar 2007, 6:39 pm

Where do I start. Too many thoughts.

I've just been using Google Earth to try to figure out where my pub was. It was actually under where "The Grand Order of Water Rats" met. Look'em up.

I once overheard an American lady looking at a shop window in Oxford Street - saying "Gee. I do like that Wor'ses'ter'shire plate.

A friend of mine worked as a courier on coarch tours round London. He just had to comment when he overheard yet another American Lady say "Gee. I do like being here in England. They all speak English".

Kippers are medium smoked herring. Enogh to fully get the flavour of the smoke. Not enough to stop them being joyously moist. They must NOT be filleted. Getting the bones out from between you teeth afterward is an essential part of the experience.

How do you pronounce "Featherstonehaugh" and "Cholmondeley"? The town "Godmanchester" has an interesting (affected) pronunciation too.



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06 Mar 2007, 6:51 pm

I miss John - I read "A Spaniard in the Works" when he wrote it, and "In His Own Write". Things to go back to. I also miss Spike.

Oh. And on Google Earth, I looked for my Hampton Court tennis court, but it's gone. You can see a partially erased netball court. The tennis courts were to the south of that, not quite all the way down to the car park, I don't think, which wasn't there at the time. Inside Hampton Court, I don't know, but I suspect they still have a "Real Tennis Court". I nearly played that once in Cambridge. I did knock a ball round the court with a proper racket. A very strange game.



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06 Mar 2007, 6:53 pm

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It was actually under where "The Grand Order of Water Rats" met. Look'em up.
Yes sir.

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A friend of mine worked as a courier on coarch tours round London. He just had to comment when he overheard yet another American Lady say "Gee. I do like being here in England. They all speak English".
That's hysterical. But, Lau, I don't really think we say "Gee" over here. It's more likely to be "Jesus" or "Yeesh". Speaking of people who work in the tourist trade, I have a friend who takes tourists on scuba dive trips (if you haven't figured it out by now, I live in Hawaii, on the island of Hawaii), and here is a sample of stupid things tourists have said:

"Does the water go all the way around the island?"
or
"What time do the dolphins usually show up"
or
"I went to all these beaches, and collected the different colors of water in these clear plastic vials. But do you know, they're all the same color now! I wonder why that is?"
or
(A guy putting on the new dive watch he just purchased, at this shop where you can literally see the ocean from where he's standing) "What elevation would you say we're at?"

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Kippers are medium smoked herring. Enogh to fully get the flavour of the smoke. Not enough to stop them being joyously moist. They must NOT be filleted. Getting the bones out from between you teeth afterward is an essential part of the experience.
So THAT explains the state of British dentistry. Y'all rely on your kippers instead of proper dental floss!



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06 Mar 2007, 7:10 pm

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Lau wrote:
Ah! I always preferred Old Peculiar.


Just the label alone makes me want some. Very apt, that phrase "Four pints and you don't really see the afternoon". Sigh.


I have been to Theakston's own brewery at Masham. And I had a pint of that on cask. The word was 'heavenly'. I could not stand up straight after drinking it though and I stumbled for an hour afterwards! Moral: do not toy with Old Peculier. It's widely available both in Britain and abroad in bottle form but I've only ever had the cask one. It costs about £2.50 a pint in England on the rare occasions that you can find a pub that can serve it. My local pub (which can be seen on Flickr), which is a Theakston's pub serves Best Bitter, Mild and Black Bull Bitter. A few years ago they used to serve Old Peculier on cask but I think it was too strong (the people who I was with let me know this before ordering a pint at Masham) and didn't sell all that well.



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06 Mar 2007, 7:14 pm

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Being word obsessed, I've wondered about this - why spell it Worcestershire but pronounce it Worster, and why is Lancashire not Lancastershire if it's near Lancaster? And if it was spelled Lancastershire would you pronounce it Lancashire?


It's not pronounced 'Worster', it's 'Wusster'. 'Wusstershur'.

Lancashire obviously means "Lancaster's share". And I pronounce Lancashire as 'Lankyshur', as many others do round these parts. Basically counties are areas of which the county town is usually the main focus, but that covers larger areas. These days, Preston is the administrative centre of Lancashire but Lancaster remains a sort of cultural centre, if you like. Lancaster is also a nicer place to visit than Preston.



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06 Mar 2007, 7:21 pm

But that doesn't answer my questions. Never mind, you're too young :twisted:



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06 Mar 2007, 7:22 pm

(Godmanchester can be just God'man'ches'ter or affected as Gum'ster)

OK. This takes a little while to set up.

I used to live in Port Isaac. A small fishing village on the north coast of Cornwall. Cliffs. Nice little harbour with a couple of sea walls to shelter it.

A short (one mile?) drive or (rather strenuous) walk up the hill and down the other side gets you to Port Gaverne (pronounced Gay-verne, not g'verne).

Both have fairly tiny beaches. Parking is limited. There's parking on the beach in both places. In Port Isaac you pay an attendant. As he lets people on the beach he tells them when the tide will be coming in, so they know when to move their car, or have it float out to sea (which happens, regularly, often to locals, who only have the excuse of being highly inebriated).

As an aside, there's a restaurant just up off the beach. One of the few you'll ever see where the owner puts up a sign at lunchtimes - "Closed for Lunch".

Back to the beach and cars... I was chatting to the attendant one day, just as he was packing up to go. I.e. the tide was on its way up, so nothing more for him to do, and I think all the cars had gone.

A car arrives. The woman in it wants to park on the beach. He points at the board that shows the tide is on its way up. He explains that it's not a good idea, unless she only wants to stay for 10 minutes.

She then rather grumpily says "In that case, I'll go and park on Port Gaverne beach. When is the high tide there?".



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06 Mar 2007, 7:27 pm

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(Godmanchester can be just God'man'ches'ter or affected as Gum'ster)

OK. This takes a little while to set up.

I used to live in Port Isaac. A small fishing village on the north coast of Cornwall. Cliffs. Nice little harbour with a couple of sea walls to shelter it.

A short (one mile?) drive or (rather strenuous) walk up the hill and down the other side gets you to Port Gaverne (pronounced Gay-verne, not g'verne).

Both have fairly tiny beaches. Parking is limited. There's parking on the beach in both places. In Port Isaac you pay an attendant. As he lets people on the beach he tells them when the tide will be coming in, so they know when to move their car, or have it float out to sea (which happens, regularly, often to locals, who only have the excuse of being highly inebriated).

As an aside, there's a restaurant just up off the beach. One of the few you'll ever see where the owner puts up a sign at lunchtimes - "Closed for Lunch".

Back to the beach and cars... I was chatting to the attendant one day, just as he was packing up to go. I.e. the tide was on its way up, so nothing more for him to do, and I think all the cars had gone.

A car arrives. The woman in it wants to park on the beach. He points at the board that shows the tide is on its way up. He explains that it's not a good idea, unless she only wants to stay for 10 minutes.

She then rather grumpily says "In that case, I'll go and park on Port Gaverne beach. When is the high tide there?".


Had to have the Wife read that, other then laughter all she had to say was, she thinks you have spent too much time in the tin mines.



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06 Mar 2007, 7:40 pm

It's one of those evenings. Someone tell me to shut up.

Ah! The tin mines. My brother-in-law had a job, for a while, capping old Cornish tin mines.

England is a very "lived in" place. Cornwall is riddled with holes in the ground. Played out tine mines that never got onto maps. Just covered over with a log or two, the odd century ago. People disappear... down them.

Some friends in Port Isaac were rearranging a sort of "patio" area at the back of their cottage. In the process they decided to move a slab of slate that they have been walking back and forth over for years.

It was a thin slab. It covered a 20 foot deep well that they hadn't know anything about.



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06 Mar 2007, 7:49 pm

Tin mines??
I thought it was hysterical!

An American GI was in Europe, trying to get home after the war. He had just boarded the train and was looking for a seat, however, the car was full. He finally saw an empty seat towards the other end. As he approached the seat, however, he noticed that a poodle was occupying the seat. He asked the lady in the next seat "Ma'am, can I please have this seat?" She just sniffed and looked out the window. The GI says, a little more loudly and clearly this time, "Ma'am, will you please move your dog so I can sit? I"ve been fighting this war and I'm very tired." But the lady refused to move her dog.

The GI picked up the poodle, and threw it out the window of the moving train.

An Englishman across the aisle said "You Americans can't do anything right. You drive on the wrong side of the road. You cut your meat with the wrong hand... and you threw the wrong b***h off the train".



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06 Mar 2007, 7:55 pm

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We'll be looking at the Bipolar thing from a different way very soon. One good thing is a lot of the drugs used to level out Bipolar are used for AS

Paleo, please let me know how that goes. I've been on meds for 10 years, and as a nurse, I'm really interested in this subject. I know one other person who thinks she's bipolar as well as aspie. I was on lithium for a time, which actually helped my depression somewhat, but it also made me like a Stepford Wife.



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06 Mar 2007, 7:56 pm

LOL

Generally speaking, English sense of humour - dry.

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But that doesn't answer my questions. Never mind, you're too young :twisted:

Yawn. I thought tequila had answered, roughly.
As to the "why" we write it one way and pronounce it utterly different... it's just our secret code, so we can spot a furiner a mile off.

When I was small, I used to visit "mep-um" and "root-um" in Kent. Many years later, I went back an had an awful time locating them. "mep-um" wasn't too difficult. It's actually spelt "Meopham", but I knew that.

Curiously, I had only ever walked to "root-um" before. This time I was driving. I drove round and round and it took ages before I remembered (worked out) that "root-um" was spelt "Wrotham".



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06 Mar 2007, 7:58 pm

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But that doesn't answer my questions. Never mind, you're too young :twisted:


No, we wouldn't pronounce it Lancashire. We would pronounce it 'Lancastershur' or something like that. It would be a bit daft, no?