"You're supposed to know this stuff"
if there were bedrock compatibility issues which were exposed by having to go to counseling, i would take that as a warning.
It was more from the fact that we both had longterm rships that didn't work where we both tried counselling at the end of it all, when it was all too late. We had both independently thought how much more effective counselling would be if we did it at the START of a rship, so that is what we did. It has been very helpful and healthy. We are both older, and have our own baggage to sort through. I would be more worried if I was with a man who refused to go to counselling with me. Rships take work.
I do appreciate your concern though.
auntblabby
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It worked for my wife and I. I am aspie and she is NT but with aspie traits she got as survival tactics growing up. She understands now and our relationship is much stronger. We still have problens with my aspieness. Only now we realize that is what it is and are able to work thru it.
It is such a tough puzzle, the last part you mentioned. I keep telling him not to judge whether I care about him due to whether I "just know" the right thing to do, judge by this: If you tell me what to do and I choose to do it, then I care about you. If you tell me what to do and I choose NOT to do it, then that is not a good sign... Still, as you said, it just doesn't have the same impact as the whole intuitive thing.. I just hope he can come to terms with it, because I don't know how to "create" such a thing in me. Not for lack of trying!! !!
Thanks so much for all your help, everyone, really helps and means a lot!
There's your problem, if you forget to NOT do it, or you didn't know you where suppose to do it. He takes it that you choose not and that is a sign that you don't care for him.
analyser23:
I'm going to tell you what I tell men when their wives have complaints that are similar to those of your fiance.
Frequently, in various types of work, especially in the sciences or technology, people are required to get status updates on systems or employees they work with. These status updates help them determine the state of the system, and how to proceed. This even applies to domestic things. For example, a person might check to make sure a cake is done by sticking a fork in it before they take it out of the oven. This is the equivalent of asking "Are you done baking?" If the fork comes out clean, then the answer is yes, and the person usually decides to remove the cake from the oven. If the fork comes out with batter on it, then cake is not done and the person will usually resolve to check it again in 10 minutes or so.
I am not proposing you bake your husband. However romantic relationships are similar in that your partner is like a cake or system in the sense that it's important for you to check their mental, emotional, situational, and physical status to determine how to work with them.
You will not always be able to determine their status through verbal means. In some situations, you will have to ask yourself questions like "How might this person be feeling right now?" "How would I feel in the situation they are in?" "Does this person need anything from me?"
You also have to realize that in any romantic relationship, the individuals involved should work as a team. If you see your partner is struggling with something, if you are in the position to do so, offer to help.
That being said, I don't know that it's reasonable that your fiance expected you to message him. I can't really think of a way by which anyone could have known to do such a thing just because someone left the house in a hurry because they were running late.
My partner who says he wants to understand me and learn about my AS, reads some things here and there, but doesn't really put much into understanding it, although he supports me. He supports me with it, yet when I actually exhibit any of the common traits, he gets mad with me! how can you understand my AS and support me with it, if you get mad whenever I have troubles due to it?
The latest one being that he shouldn't have to tell me what I need to do to show him I care and respect him, that I am just "supposed to know it" and that it is "blatantly obvious". Despite the fact that what he says he wants changes day to day. When I ask him to spell out what he wants in detail so that I know what to do, he gets mad and says that that in itself shows I don't care for him. I am meant to just "know" what to do if I am a caring person!
I try and try to explain how I work and how I think, and he never believes me. I try so hard all the time to get it right, and I have such good intentions. I am stretched to my limit with my life, especially having AS on top of it all!! !
How am I supposed to get through this? He never believes what I say
Quite ignorant behaviour I must say. Nobody knows everything and nothing is self obvious neither in NT world.
This what he does is probably some kind of reaction of not getting from you what he wants. He is offended.
But that doesnt mean (I guess) that he doesnt want you to tell what is wrong in the very situation.
Just that he is frustrated in general with your ability to show that you like or love him.
Let him think about what that could be. And at a time when he is not in that mood. Make jokes about yourself or about the situation
Let him teach you (maybe also in the funny way) how you are supposed to do it. Then he gets it hopefully very clear what kind of trouble you have
the funny and relaxed way.
Hmm I never tried that one on girl friends but for friends it uses to go that way....
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I try and try to explain how I work and how I think, and he never believes me. I try so hard all the time to get it right, and I have such good intentions. I am stretched to my limit with my life, especially having AS on top of it all!! !
How am I supposed to get through this? He never believes what I say
Based on these two lines it sounds to me like he may be playing power games with you. If you have made your limitations crystal clear and are working diligently to fulfill your obligations within the relationship then there is nothing more that you can do. Perhaps the "pay-off" for him is the power shift that happens when you believe that you have "failed". At these moments you give him a tremendous amount of power over your happiness--perhaps too much.
Earthlings often engage in these kinds of power games unconciously. Maybe he is repressing some negative feeling about getting married ( fear, anger over the impending loss of his freedom). It may have nothing at all to do with you personally but we aspies often accept blame for others' issues, especially those whom we love.
What would happen if you calmly told him that you are doing your best and then walked away?
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