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06 Mar 2007, 7:59 pm

Sorry about juxtaposing my LOL with the Stepford Wife bit instead of the b***h joke. :)



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06 Mar 2007, 8:03 pm

Look, you haven't had to pronounce Wrocław or Bydgoszcz now, have you? I tried, before being corrected by Polish friends. "What iis Wroklaw?" "Aaaah, Vrotswaf!"



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06 Mar 2007, 8:22 pm

Lau wrote:
Sorry about juxtaposing my LOL with the Stepford Wife bit instead of the b***h joke. :)


Oh there aren't enough emoticons on this site for a proper response to that one!! !



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06 Mar 2007, 8:29 pm

It's partly that I have CAPD (auditory processing disorder) and am hyperverbal (can't remember the stupid technical term for that one) that things like this stick in my head. They will, though, for hours. I'll see a word and visualize it frontwards and backwards and think it and spell it and see it...kind of like some people do with numbers. When I was young, to calm myself down, I'd see and say words backwards. My mother thought it was a cute parlor trick. I still find myself doing it when I'm overwhelmed. ANYway, this is to explain my slight obsession with words that don't look like they sound, which we certainly have enough of in the English language.

Speaking of which, I'm really really bad at hearing the words in song lyrics. Especially Elton John. I can barely understand a word he says. I love to sing along, but I can't do it in front of others because they laugh at me - not because I can't sing but because I make up words when I can't understand what's being sung. Quite silly, really.



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06 Mar 2007, 8:30 pm

Hey Tequila, how do I get rid of the five stupid boxes, now that I've posted more than 1000?



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06 Mar 2007, 8:34 pm

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Look, you haven't had to pronounce Wrocław or Bydgoszcz now, have you? I tried, before being corrected by Polish friends. "What iis Wroklaw?" "Aaaah, Vrotswaf!"

Ah but elsewhere, they'll be consistent. Having eslablished that Wroklaw->Vrotswaf, and Plegdrot->Fripdas, when you see Pleglaw, you know it's pronounced Fripwaf.

In most languges, pronunciation and spelling go largely hand in hand,

With English, that doesn't really happen, and placenames just get plain silly. As you move from county to county, the rules change, and even inside a county you'll have variants.

Out in Kent, Gillingham is pronounced Jillingham. Here in Somerset, it's as spelt, with the hard "G".

And then.... the meaning. Write it, say it, but what does it mean?

I quite like the slough/sluff variations. The two spelling, the pronunciation that juggles. The two meanings the don't quite match versus spelling or pronunciation.

A boggy area can be a slough, pronounced as written sl'a'ow, or some such.

A snake can either slough its skin of sluff it. Pronounced as spelt in each case.

However, just for good measure, a single additional case is allowed: a snake can slough(pronounced sluff) its skin.



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06 Mar 2007, 8:44 pm

And as my last two thoughts, as I flake out... was it Oscar Wilde that did the "Q. How do you spell fish? A. Ghoti".
And..

Is it eight ways of pronouncing "-ough" in English?
I'm too tired to get them all, but I'll make a start:

enough
cough
bough
dough
hiccough
through
thorough

ZZZZzzzzzz......



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06 Mar 2007, 8:49 pm

"Slough" is pronounced "slew" here.

LOL - Sweet dreams thinking of Oscar Wilde....you got seven out of eight. Oh dear, now I'll be busy trying to think of the aitth...



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06 Mar 2007, 9:04 pm

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We'll be looking at the Bipolar thing from a different way very soon. One good thing is a lot of the drugs used to level out Bipolar are used for AS

Paleo, please let me know how that goes. I've been on meds for 10 years, and as a nurse, I'm really interested in this subject. I know one other person who thinks she's bipolar as well as aspie. I was on lithium for a time, which actually helped my depression somewhat, but it also made me like a Stepford Wife.


Scuse me for gettin serious, well as serious as I can get. for a sec.

Lithium was a real b***h for me, so many others I have lost count. Each is different for everyone that goes the med route. 10 long years I've been at the med trip and only now think we might be close. I asked about the BP and AS thing, one kind soul came back and said yeah it's not uncommon at all, add in all the little friends that hitch rides on either of these and...burnout. It gets so complex it just doesn't matter anymore. Give me something to beat back the depression, the dangerous kind, at the time I get it. Give me something to beat back the anxiety, at the time I get it and I'll be a happier camper. Doesn't work that way for the depression the other you can do it and simply. They like to stick you with the latest and greatest and costly thing s that pop up every third day of the month. Valium, yup, valium, works like a champ for me. Depression well going to look at it better, the one I'm doing seems to work for the swing depression, but not so hot for the overload meltdown kind. We will see yes we will and the doc is going to get a lesson if he was snoozin during the SA lecture.

Ok we turn the tv back to more important things. Now were we? Spam? Umm no we flew by that one. English lessons, ah yes. I thought I told everyone I got slapped by every English teacher I ever had.



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07 Mar 2007, 1:26 am

Oh, Lau, Lau, you don't wanta eat the coffee berries. I lived on the Kona coast and picked the juicy red berries (sorta like pomegranite seeds) that thinly coat the green coffee berry kernal inside and it tastes like WRETCHING does. (bitter as gall!)
What a dissappointment!

The story goes the guy saw a goat eating them bouncing around and that is why they tried coffee berries in the first place. I can see why!

And the spam shushi pic is precious, just precious!
See, I go to check out the Gestalt.com site and miss out on a fun night at the old Dino Aspie Cafe ( or are we gonna change it to the Spam and Kipper?)

Post Paleo, your new specimin on your avatar is quite nice. I took Archeology in college (majored, in fact) because I love to find 'things' in the earth.

And the drugs. I have a pretty low addiction threshold. I got sober with AA and have been sober for 23 years now. I was on Celexa for three years, some crisis center got me started on them and I was never followed with it, they just kept giving me the script. As long as I stayed out of their hair, they didn't care. Holed up in a friends storage shed for 18 months and stopped cold turkey off of it. That is something I don't recommend for ANYONE. Suicide is the old man that haunts me, I have a 16 inch scar from chin across cheek to eye from the time I threw myself off the bike going about 30 mph (they still have miles in England, don't they, Lau?) Obviously, I survived the fall. I really have to work hard, hard, hard to avoid suicide, when the blackness comes on me. But I have perfected a fabulous rendition of "Many Rivers To Cross" that old Jimmy Cliff song that I sing when I get down oh, so very low.

However, it is time for me to play MY age card. I am 56, will be 57 this year in late November and I and I self diagnosed last October when I heard about AS on National Public Radio. Then I took an Aspie Quiz and got 182 out of 200 AS with a 20/200 NT (what ever THAT means) and I understood myself for the first time in my life.

Welcome to the Cafe. . . and I agree, Kona just isn't strong enough for me, but DON"T palm off any chicory on me. I will take Italian Roast and I have my French Press with me.
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07 Mar 2007, 1:57 am

Sinsboldy,
You and I gonna relate on several plains, be very afraid. :wink: The AA thing? I have a huge problem with them. can you imagine an Aspie doing that? Well apparently you did and I did as long as I could handle it and that wasn't too long. They need their asses kicked into the 21st century big time. drugs and cold turkey, wasn't fun was it. But hahaha got you beat by 4 months on age, get in line. Avatar is a clovis, have to see it to know if it's real or a fake. If it's a fake they did a good job, better then I can do.

Did I hear anyone say expresso?

SpamMuffins and KipperSushi?

Ahh well back to the tin mines for me.
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07 Mar 2007, 2:56 am

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We will see yes we will and the doc is going to get a lesson if he was snoozin during the SA lecture.

What is SA lecture? Anyway, I can relate to everything you posted. Klonopin (benzodiazepene like valium) works great for panic attacks/short-term anxiety. I have found, like Temple Grandin, that tricyclic antidepressants (Elavil is one) work great for soothing the nervous system and helping with more generalized anxiety. When I was waking up with panic attacks, Elavil worked from the first dose. Yes, anxiety is certainly more managable than depression. Sigh. All I can say is that, after 10 years, I know I HAVE to be on an SSRI forever, because of the countless times I've tried to do without, I end up suicidal. And that ain't pretty at my age. I've even contemplated ECT.

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You must have gone to Catholic school.



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07 Mar 2007, 3:06 am

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The AA thing? I have a huge problem with them. can you imagine an Aspie doing that? Well apparently you did and I did as long as I could handle it and that wasn't too long. They need their asses kicked into the 21st century big time. drugs and cold turkey, wasn't fun was it.


You think AA is bad, have you heard of Narcanon? At least at most addiction places based on the 12 steps, they give you drugs if you're detoxing from life-threatening addictions to alcohol or benzos, or really bad opiate addictions. Narcanon, which is from the scientologists, makes everybody go cold-turkey. They have some really weird beliefs. I can't believe nobody has died yet from trying to detox at one of their facilities. Or maybe somebody has and Tom Cruise paid the family off. (I know this from professional, not personal experience, by the way :) )



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07 Mar 2007, 3:31 am

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We will see yes we will and the doc is going to get a lesson if he was snoozin during the SA lecture.

What is SA lecture? Anyway, I can relate to everything you posted. Klonopin (benzodiazepene like valium) works great for panic attacks/short-term anxiety. I have found, like Temple Grandin, that tricyclic antidepressants (Elavil is one) work great for soothing the nervous system and helping with more generalized anxiety. When I was waking up with panic attacks, Elavil worked from the first dose. Yes, anxiety is certainly more managable than depression. Sigh. All I can say is that, after 10 years, I know I HAVE to be on an SSRI forever, because of the countless times I've tried to do without, I end up suicidal. And that ain't pretty at my age. I've even contemplated ECT.

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English lessons, ah yes. I thought I told everyone I got slapped by every English teacher I ever had.
You must have gone to Catholic school.


Lol, I have no idea what an SA lecture is. Just ment he had better been paying attention when they were discussing the syndrome when he was in med school. I don't even know if they knew about it then. Meds, well I'm pretty much stuck with what the VA has. They don't have the latest or the greatest, so we work with what is available.

No, didn't do Catholic school. Although my grades were so bad my parents thought about it. It would have ment a 20 mile drive to do it, each way. You ready for this? I was the class clown. I found very early in life, very early, I could once in a while get an adult to laugh. I worked at it, I could more easliy slide into a group if I could get a little humor going. I guess I let it get out of hand. It was humor that got me in trouble with English teachers and would have flunked 12 grade. The one course I had to have to be let out of that awful place was in the hands of an English teacher, the only one that never slapped me. She walked up to me in the hall. I had marveled when I got a D in it. She said to me, do you know why I passed you? The light went on, I had failed. No I said I don't. She said, "becasue you read". I did, I put myself to sleep every night with a book in my hand.

I'd like to be able to do it again, to read a whole book and am working at it. My writing is only really a recent thing, I did it in short sound bites before, but this is really all new to me and I love it. It's here today and I know I might not be able tomarrow. The attention span is better, the brain race is more even. I can even remember things a few days ago, the little things. Life is getting better, have to keep the forward motion going. Sometimes it feels like every step forward I get beat back two. But we know about that one :) Hell, I'll probably be on my death bed thinking about how to go a little bit further. Still trying to look at all the marvels.



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07 Mar 2007, 3:40 am

Lol, yeah Tom Cruise, he's a piece of work. I loved Sci Fi, had to have the culture build in it. Liked the old short stories, had to see where it all began. L. Ron Hubbard, he wrote volumes about nothing, couldn't take him as a writer. What he wrote could have been condensed into about 5 pages, yet his books ran into the hundreds of pages. Narcanon, no I haven't heard of that one. The off shoot of AA, NA, was really new the last meeting I ever went to actually. Man, cold turkey was not a fun thing at all. Did it alone, makes me kind of shudder to think about it.


Humm, I might be getting morbid in here, maybe we better change the subject.



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07 Mar 2007, 5:20 am

konyannah wrote:
I'm very nearly 45

terminally single


losing hair rapidly


life is good


roflmao

you are very funny

me?

i am single - terminally i suspect
i am 38
i am female
i am grey, white and the few other natural original browns
i am ozzie
i am AS....suspected for years, diagnosed for months
i am an individual