autism supremacy is a need
I appreciate your humor more and more all the time!
No need to mock the afflicted (in spite of the obvious temptation to do so)
Ci
That is not very diplomatic nor does it present you, or your case, in a positive light.
I think the sentiments that you post here refer to your own situation rather than mine.
Do you think that you are representing this community in a positive light by accusing anybody who questions your sweeping statements (which not only lack evidence but also are delivered in an incomprihensible manner) with a lack of humility?
Please do not consider yourself an Ambassador, if anything I suspect that you are an agent provaceur of some kind.
Good day sir.
Just the opposite pride advocates provoked me. When you call "it" a community do you propose that one perspective represents all? In all of my advocacy professionally I am very inspirational, non-confrontational and frankly do what others would not or were to fearful to do. Must I go along with mixing abortion issues and asking for money for otherwise VERY high functioning people that are to get their PHD's, masters and so on? Sometimes one must wonder if what they are doing is really in the best interest of others or really just the worse kinds of advocacy toward the public to really fail. I do not trust them and these kinds of advocates go against advocacy for the isolated and whom have autism. I have a feeling that once you jump outside of the N.T vs. Aspie box and have a harsh reality check the vast majority of individuals with autism don't even know what the N.T concept is nor do they willingly or unwillingly go along with advocacy that is utterly foul when applicable towards the likes of their parents, family and people that care.
No I am not am Ambassador nor ever wanted to be one of the likes of pride. I'm someone that thinks it up, does it and does not look back with regards to solutions for opportunity and succeeds. I don't sit around complaining about the N.T concept to the point of non-constructive resolution and harsh division. Instead I create solutions for those who are disabled and have no chance of attending college and achieving what some elite social political players do in the name of myself and others who have failed to ask if it's ok to represent them in that fashion and whom also seek to split the community as a whole over simple concepts such as a cure and pathological medical sciences which are really mainstream abortion politics as usual. My suggestion is as a no nonsense individual is take the abortion issues and make them one thing and leave others who don't want anything to do with it out of it because it's causing a mess and the mess that's being created those who agree with them would benefit from that mess in their mainstream politics.
Eventually this will all be straightened out and a time I think will come in which making others believe they are hated because of a womens right to know and choose will be dealt with. The emotional mind games others are playing for abortion politics will run out of it's social fuel if you will. Enough with the nonsense so what I'm asking is to be diplomatic with what I'm saying as the some of the folks online in these pride propaganda groups represent just a small fraction of .01% of people with autism who should not be effected by your choices to believe the world is a certain way to fit your agendas.
I hope you can understand what I'm saying because if it continues the political heat will be rising.
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The peer politics creating intolerance toward compassion is coming to an end. Pity accusations, indifferent advocacy against isolation awareness and for pride in an image of autism is injustice. http://www.autismselfadvocacynetwork.com
Last edited by ci on 28 Jun 2011, 1:48 am, edited 3 times in total.
I appreciate your humor more and more all the time!
No need to mock the afflicted (in spite of the obvious temptation to do so)
No need to imply possibly being mean spirited despite the resisted urge to do so...
Ci
That is not very diplomatic nor does it present you, or your case, in a positive light.
I think the sentiments that you post here refer to your own situation rather than mine.
Do you think that you are representing this community in a positive light by accusing anybody who questions your sweeping statements (which not only lack evidence but also are delivered in an incomprihensible manner) with a lack of humility?
Please do not consider yourself an Ambassador, if anything I suspect that you are an agent provaceur of some kind.
Good day sir.
Just the opposite pride advocates provoked me. When you call "it" a community do you propose that one perspective represents all? In all of my advocacy professionally I am very inspirational, non-confrontational and frankly do what others would not or were to fearful to do. Must I go along with mixing abortion issues and asking for money for otherwise VERY high functioning people that are to get their PHD's, masters and so on? Sometimes one must wonder if what they are doing is really in the best interest of others or really just the worse kinds of advocacy toward the public to really fail. I do not trust them and these kinds of advocates go against advocacy for the isolated and whom have autism. I have a feeling that once you jump outside of the N.T vs. Aspie box and have a harsh reality check the vast majority of individuals with autism don't even know what the N.T concept is nor do they willingly or unwillingly go along with advocacy that is utterly foul when applicable towards the likes of their parents, family and people that care.
No I am not am Ambassador nor ever wanted to be one of the likes of pride. I'm someone that thinks it up, does it and does not look back with regards to solutions for opportunity and succeeds. I don't sit around complaining about the N.T concept to the point of non-constructive resolution and harsh division. Instead I create solutions for those who are disabled and have no chance of attending college and achieving what some elite social political players do in the name of myself and others who have failed to ask if it's ok to represent them in that fashion and whom also seek to split the community as a whole over simple concepts such as a cure and pathological medical sciences which are really mainstream abortion politics as usual. My suggestion is as a no nonsense individual is take the abortion issues and make them one thing and leave others who don't want anything to do with it out of it because it's causing a mess and the mess that's being created those who agree with them would benefit from that mess in their mainstream politics.
Eventually this will all be straightened out and a time I think will come in which making others believe they are hated because of a womens right to know and choose will be dealt with. The emotional mind games others are playing for abortion politics will run out of it's social fuel if you will. Enough with the nonsense so what I'm asking is to be diplomatic with what I'm saying as you folks online in these pride propaganda groups represent just a small fraction of 1% of people with autism who should not be effected by your choices to believe the world is a certain way to fit your agendas.
I hope you can understand what I'm saying because if it continues the political heat will be rising.
Ci
You have a talent for irritating and alienating people.
I have no connection with any groups but, like most people, do not like being lectured to.
You are trying to "sell" concepts and insulting people who question you is the sign of a very poor salesman.
I advise you to rethink your approach or people will stop tolerating your diatribes.
I have pointed out successfully the conflicts of interest. The inability to differentiate who's who in that politic is not my intent. I feel that in time people will be able to better reason what others have done. I'm speaking of susceptible individuals who have otherwise believed the world hates them because of what autism anti-abortion advocates have said. If a test can be developed there is nothing I can personally do about that. Yet inspiring others to feel they are hated and worthless for life to make a political point is an ethical decision outside of my control. My hope is to socially indirectly confront these individuals. If you are one of them you might respond as you have. Until then welcome to to the thick political fog of collective minds.
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The peer politics creating intolerance toward compassion is coming to an end. Pity accusations, indifferent advocacy against isolation awareness and for pride in an image of autism is injustice. http://www.autismselfadvocacynetwork.com
Banging head on brick wall
I think we can get along.
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The peer politics creating intolerance toward compassion is coming to an end. Pity accusations, indifferent advocacy against isolation awareness and for pride in an image of autism is injustice. http://www.autismselfadvocacynetwork.com
Right. That's what Autism Speaks is made out to be. Because I do not hate Autism Speaks with a righteous pattern of behavior I must be what you consider as akin to them. My broadcasting, my website and other material is reviewed by qualifying participants. I just have reasoned a way out of the political backfire of politically inexperienced individuals who happen to have autism. It's the only way I've devised and I'm teaching you in this post. It might be wise you pay attention instead of inventing a monster that is not there just like other political people do which is getting quite old. I'm protecting myself and others. I recon those folks who want to play politics with my and others civil rights and inclusion progress will think twice before doing it again. Really take it offline I'd be happy to do a phone conference to be published on YouTube or some media interview. I ain't one bit afraid of some online folk that really don't understand the consequences of their actions toward individuals who are otherwise unaware and innocent. The Anti-N.T and combined abortion politics are no longer just online.
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The peer politics creating intolerance toward compassion is coming to an end. Pity accusations, indifferent advocacy against isolation awareness and for pride in an image of autism is injustice. http://www.autismselfadvocacynetwork.com
Ci
I have nothing to do with Austism Speaks, Pride or the Salvation Army!
I am an ex plasterer who runs a security company in Preston, Lancashire.
I don't care about the content of what you say, but the way you say it gets right up my nose.
I suggest that you learn to communicate better, end of........................
Ci
I have nothing to do with Austism Speaks, Pride or the Salvation Army!
I am an ex plasterer who runs a security company in Preston, Lancashire.
I don't care about the content of what you say, but the way you say it gets right up my nose.
I suggest that you learn to communicate better, end of........................
I never said you had anything to do with Autism Speaks. Just the opposite. Why are you even speaking to me if my style of communication which is the only one I know is either grammatically not good enough for you or brings up concepts I've learned in order to properly convey how I best understand people. IF you are going out of your way to keep pushing that on me as If I am suddenly going to change how I understand and communicate perhaps you might be asking for to much.
This topic is about pride and pride is like other things a spectrum. I think I will make you happy if you type for me. But that won't happen at all so what I suggest is tolerate and appreciate different styles of understanding and expressing.
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The peer politics creating intolerance toward compassion is coming to an end. Pity accusations, indifferent advocacy against isolation awareness and for pride in an image of autism is injustice. http://www.autismselfadvocacynetwork.com
I admire the loyalty and dedication of Zionists. For those who claim autistic supremacy will create a stigma and ruin NT/autistic relations, take a look at the Zionists. Israel is extremely xenophobic, yet any criticism of Zionism is seen as anti-semitism. It is possible to manipulate social consensus so that you are accepted while at the same time you carry out a supremacist agenda.
To those that claim we are not superior due to our low functioning cousins: What if we were to find a way to alter our genome so that the autistic genes may never be expressed in a way that results in low functioning autism? What is your argument against this?
No....................................................... I think you are a liability and present autistics as a freakshow.
The rest of us have to wear the results of your antics.
I think folks like you that do not need supports and who are otherwise employed on their own consider things freak shows because of how they want to use autism as an identity for political reasons. I also think it's about time people stand up to these kinds of people. they are so embarrassed by compassion and the reality of others they seek to limit expression by calling it insulting. I have a suggestion for an Ex plasterer who owns a security company without the help of support workers. Autism is a developmental disability that for people who are really affected by it need allot of help and compassion. Instead of limiting those expression by making it out to be akin to a freak show why not like some other very high functioning people do who otherwise use autism the diagnostic label as a political scheme to undermine real progress and realize your not really disabled by it and maybe when the new DSM comes out you want even qualify for it.
It's just a suggestion but ultimately I think people like me and others who depend on supports and more sensitive public relations ought to be considered separate groups within the general autism label premise.
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The peer politics creating intolerance toward compassion is coming to an end. Pity accusations, indifferent advocacy against isolation awareness and for pride in an image of autism is injustice. http://www.autismselfadvocacynetwork.com
To those that claim we are not superior due to our low functioning cousins: What if we were to find a way to alter our genome so that the autistic genes may never be expressed in a way that results in low functioning autism? What is your argument against this?
I think it's just a disorder label and people take it to seriously as if it's akin to a religion, tribe or species.
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The peer politics creating intolerance toward compassion is coming to an end. Pity accusations, indifferent advocacy against isolation awareness and for pride in an image of autism is injustice. http://www.autismselfadvocacynetwork.com
No....................................................... I think you are a liability and present autistics as a freakshow.
The rest of us have to wear the results of your antics.
I think folks like you that do not need supports and who are otherwise employed on their own consider things freak shows because of how they want to use autism as an identity for political reasons. I also think it's about time people stand up to these kinds of people. they are so embarrassed by compassion and the reality of others they seek to limit expression by calling it insulting. I have a suggestion for an Ex plasterer who owns a security company without the help of support workers. Autism is a developmental disability that for people who are really affected by it need allot of help and compassion. Instead of limiting those expression by making it out to be akin to a freak show why not like some other very high functioning people do who otherwise use autism the diagnostic label as a political scheme to undermine real progress and realize your not really disabled by it and maybe when the new DSM comes out you want even qualify for it.
It's just a suggestion but ultimately I think people like me and others who depend on supports and more sensitive public relations ought to be considered separate groups within the general autism label premise.
"not really disabled by it"
So Aspies should have no voice then?
Now we are seeing your real agenda
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