Bill Gates says that vaccines don't cause autism

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jackbus01
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26 Feb 2011, 10:19 am

That's odd. I thought the so-called vaccine debate was definitely over a while ago.

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26 Feb 2011, 8:08 pm

It's not the vaccinating agent itself that is under accusation as far as I know. It's the MERCURY in the vaccine, used as a preservative. They don't need to contain this well established neruo-toxin. Vaccines do save lives and suffering. Mercury injures the brain. There really is no debate about that.

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26 Feb 2011, 8:44 pm

emtyeye wrote:

Lots of studies indicating no connection between thimerosal and autism:

http://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/concer ... index.html

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26 Feb 2011, 9:25 pm

Either way they've signifigantly cut the amount of mercury in most vaccines. Now only trace amounts can be found in most vaccines.

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26 Feb 2011, 11:05 pm

emtyeye wrote:

It's not the vaccinating agent itself that is under accusation as far as I know. It's the MERCURY in the vaccine, used as a preservative.

a) Please don't repeat the same post in two different places.

b) I posted something about this claim in the anti-vax thread from that 'vaccineskill' troll. Long story short, you have fallen victim of anti-vax disinformation.

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27 Feb 2011, 11:59 am

Vexcalibur wrote:

emtyeye wrote:

It's not the vaccinating agent itself that is under accusation as far as I know. It's the MERCURY in the vaccine, used as a preservative.

a) Ooops. Sorry about that.

b) But come on, people. If you do a little research on mercury and its potential to damage the brain and then think about injecting it into little kids over and over.... Is it really so hard to understand how it might be linked to an increase in neurological problems? It has not been removed from vaccines completely, it is being "phased out" and that doesn't undo all the past dosages that were dished out.

c) I have spent a lot of time looking into the history of crap that is added to our food, water and medicine and come to the conclusion that there IS a deliberate attempt to poison the population so we spend more on "medicine", get stupider and can't figure out what is being done to us. Think about it logicly: the ruling class would have both the means and the motive to do this and the end result would be more money and power for them.

Also, trusting studies by the CDC is like trusting the fox's report on the welfare of the chickens.

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28 Feb 2011, 4:47 am

^ THIS

but now it is a tricky situation. You have to not only avoid their vaccines but their diseases too. You must find the natural solution to the problem. Or you could rely on the government and billionaire bill gates telling you what to do for the rest of your life.

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01 Mar 2011, 2:44 am

My mom believes that vaccines cause autism since according to her I was "normal" before the vaccine. I'm not sure what to think about this, but I know autism runs on my dad's side of the family.

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01 Mar 2011, 3:04 pm

DevilKisses wrote:

My mom believes that vaccines cause autism since according to her I was "normal" before the vaccine. I'm not sure what to think about this, but I know autism runs on my dad's side of the family.

How to cause autism topic

My three children are NT, and have had every single vaccine out there. All I got was smallpox and the polio series.

My birth was unspectacular. No oxygen deprivation, no problems with nausea, illness, high blood pressure. Mom just had a routine pregnancy. I was not dropped on my head. I have average intelligence, just enough to make my analytical, but not too much to give me a complex.

I blame my poor dad, rest in peace. (He only had a smallpox vax, as did my mother, also RIP.)

Damned genes! :wink:

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06 Mar 2011, 8:27 pm

...because Bill Gates knows all, right?

Thimerosol- the preservative with the mercury - has been 'proven' to NOT cause autism. Wonderful. Peachy. So, exactly how much mercury is safe to inject into a human being? Considering all mercury - no matter how minute the amount - must be handled as a hazardous waste I'm a bit leary of mercury just on principle. How much hazardous waste do I want to inject into my child?

Anyone into a good conspiracy theory, go check out the stats around the flu vaccine - another vaccine under scrutiny by the vaccine nazis because of Thimerosol. Something about flu vaccines being strongly recommended for pregnant women and miscarriage rates going up by 40+% in that group... and the CDC calling it 'insignificant'.

Nope - vaccines and mercury do not cause autism. And I'm positive they would like that to be the END of the discussion about Thimerosol.

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07 Mar 2011, 4:30 am

kate123A wrote:

it's not that I don't trust them....BUT ok I don't trust them it's the very same agency that Assures us of vaccine safety has recalled a lot of things in recent years. Drugs. Beef, spinach, eggs, and various other things. Things that are "safe" but they are on a recall list. How exactly should I trust that that 5 vaccine cocktail is safe when I can't even trust that the eggs and beef in the store is not going to have bacteria? The FDA doesn't have a spotless reputation of keeping the public safe. Why yes we've tested it thoroughly it's safe but if that is the case why are there so many cases of Salmonella and other such things. Can I make the assumption that they are Fantastic and "all is well" when I can read about outbreaks of food poisoning? Umm these are the same people I don't think so but people don't go around saying "beef or eggs equal salmonella always" they know it's a bacteria in these products. Similarly there may be some unknown mechanism in those with a combined environmental or genetic factors that is of yet unknown.

Well they aren't perfect, no organization ever is. But it's just a matter of weighing your options.

Frankly, salmonella is survivable, starvation is not.
Vaccines and other drugs can and do have side effects, but the penalties for not taking them can be much more severe.

I btw, love these two...they rock

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07 Mar 2011, 7:34 am

emtyeye wrote:

You do realize that there are countries that didn't use mercury in vaccines right? And the rising number of autism diagnoses in those countries has followed that in those of countries who did use mercury. So obviously, omg, it must just be the vaccines themselves and not the mercury that's causing it!! !! !!

Or a lot of people are very gullible and will believe false information that's proven multiple times to be false, spouted by a discredited doctor who wanted to profit from fear. Why they believe this I don't know, maybe they want a boogeyman to be able to blame, maybe they want more kids to die from preventable diseases, maybe they just don't care about any scientific proof because they've found their religion and are sticking to it. Either way it's kind of sad when people get stuck like that, whether it's about believing in a flat earth, that every medical condition can be cured by laying on hands or this.

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07 Mar 2011, 11:34 am

In all these threads about vaccines and rising autism rates - has anyone discussed the addition of Asperger's to the autism disagnosis spectrum?

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