petition: stop dsm5 changes to aspergers

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Given:

Leo Kanner= Autism ; Hans Aspergers =Aspergers:

Leo Kanner published paper in 1943; Han Aspergers published paper in 1944; both papers associated with Autism

Autism= Classic Autism to High Function Autism; Aspergers=High Function Autism

Date Published Date Published
Leo Kanner(1943)<Hans Asperger(1944)

Conclusion: Leo Kanner is FIRST to publish an in-dept paper on Autism Spectrum Disorder. And, Aspergers is a fascinating footnote because he published a paper a year later using the same terminology to denote a similar condition( in which many regard to be the same as Leo Kanner's Autism ).

Just me running a pattern.....

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To answer your question: The name Aspergers was associated with High Functioning Autism and/or Genius. I think one of the reasons the name was removed(along with the diagnosis) was because there was a growing power base and a tone of superiority among some Aspergians in the Autism community. I think the whole ASD severity model was designed with many things in mind and one was to make sure one group could not identify themselves as being 'more able ' than the others.

My contention IS THAT the terminology level one or some other name may come along to replace Aspergers......

TheSunAlsoRises

Last edited by TheSunAlsoRises on 03 Jun 2012, 11:07 pm, edited 1 time in total.

That's cowardly, and wanting to distance yourself from "those" people so you won't be shamed, is a repulsive attitude to take.

thats to harsh a critisizm

Too harsh in what way? It's true....its like when those girls at school told me they were just mean to me because everyone else was and they didn't want to be outcasts like me. People with high functioning autism and/or aspergers are no better than people with lower functioning autism to keep them separate on the basis of some aspies are too embarrassed to be associated with lower functioning autism by just being considered in the autism spectrum does not seem to be a well founded idea.

I've heard people say on this forum that AS and HFA are different in that HFA tends to have developmental delays, especially in the case of language, whereas AS does not. I have also heard that a person cannot have ADD and AS. Can anyone set me straight on this, or does it even matter?

My view is that HFA is the same as AS, it is just peoples opinions.

According to the DSMIV having a speech delay disqualifies you for an AS diagnosis, but depending on the psych that might not matter since it is such a minor symptom to seperate diagnosis' on.

Technically (according to DSMIV) it is not possible for people to be autistic and diagnosed with ADD. but about 75% of people with an autism diagnosis could qualify for an ADD diagnosis

Just adding a completely irrelevant dimension to this thread.

I'm not bothered about it changing to Autism Spectrum Disorder, but I'm scared that I won't be taken seriously anymore because it's "just level 1".

@sweatlief.i was refering to the remark about anther persons viewpints being cowardly and repulsive.cowardly and repulsive is strong language.i was not attacking there political views

Merge it for once.

The merging is a medical term.
Our place on the spectrum will still be identified with Asperger's, just not on medical record.

Really, who cares?

<--- this guy cares!

But I care because I approve it. I'm neutral to the termAsperger's. I hate, however, been called an ASPIE.... I have visceral distaste for the term. I have Asperger's but I don't consider myself an Aspie.

Being called autistic will be a huge improvement to me

well maybe, but I don't know I kind of see it the same way...it is kind of cowardly and repulsive to want the diagnoses kept separate on account of not wanting to be associated with those people(referring to the lower functioning people with autism) because the public might apply negative generalizations to you as well based on inaccurate generalizations about lower functioning people. The stigma should be fought period....to suggest otherwise can be described in that strong language in my opinion.

That is what I thought of those girls who said that to me when I was a child, that they only picked on me so they wouldn't get picked on or left out.

ok.fair enough

Lol that would mean i do not exist. I have both ADD and Aspergers both also diagnosed.
I live in Holland i don't know if that is of importance?
I know it is only if u take the DSMIV very strictly but it makes people think.

You're one of those people who should worry more about whether or not they are the stereotype.