F*** my high school leadership

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Hansgrohe
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29 Dec 2014, 12:36 am

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These "Leadership Groups" seem suspiciously like a certain brown-shirted "Youth Corps" that was popular in certain parts of Northern Europe from the mid-1930s to about 1945.

Their probably prejudiced notions towards autism, Asperger syndrome, and other mental classifications don't exactly give me much confidence in them, either.

I'm not sure how I'd react if they were rallying to find a cure for autism.

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29 Dec 2014, 3:10 am

Tyranny can indeed be diffusely applied. At no scale can one point to any brick & mortar scapegoat for American oppression, it began with "spare the rod, spoil the child" "Seen & not heard" etc. and everyone just carried on as if that was totally normal, acceptable behavior for centuries. Good people are capable of horrendous delusion when they're herded together, this is why I hang out with an exclusive cabal of weirdos.

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29 Dec 2014, 1:13 pm

Hansgrohe wrote:

I really don't know where else to put his, but I have quite a lot to say.

I hate high school, and I hate everything about it; school isn't even about learning. Honestly, every day I see a bunch of narcissists obsess over their personal status on social networks which I have no interest in partaking in (I have a FB, Twitter and IG that I don't use very frequently). My complete lack of "social skills" in the school environment leaves me as an outsider and helps contribute to my chronic depression.

However, there's something even scarier that's brewing in my high school. In yet ANOTHER attempt to somehow get test scores and related junk up, my school has actually instituted a leadership group. ALL of the people who are a part of this group are extroverted neurotypicals and fit the mold of a certain "role model" that I loathe. The school practically tells the rest of the populace to kiss their ass. They get uniforms, and all that s**t and always express their "school pride" (something I'll never partake in). It's incredible. I'm the young autistic male stuck in SpEd and suffering depression and "living in the ghetto", whereas these people who probably aren't nearly as intelligent (and may themselves seriously warrant some kind of diagnosis, believe me) are nonetheless paraded because hooray, they conform!

I really hate the leadership. They represent an image that has been constantly propagated for years and years. They want every individual to be "socializing". They want all individuals to adapt to the school environment whether they like it or not. I've been approached by SpEd teachers and have been told to go to crowds of people while I was hanging out by myself (I avoid eating lunch outside now, I just stay in classrooms). This entire brand of narcissism and bowing down is scaring me.

That's all I have to say. Feel free to speak. This is Wrong Planet, not a high school.

How was the leadership team selected? Was it by an election, or did some dictator-like person (presumably your Principal) chose the members of the team. Because if it's the former, it's not really set up for introverted people and it's more a systematic bias against you, and without breaking the rules there's nothing they could do to put someone who represents introverts/neurodiverse persons. If it's the later it means they deliberately chose to exclude introverts/neurodiverse persons, or simply didn't think about including them, and is far more problematic as it either shows deliberate bias or lack of thought towards introverts/neurodiverse persons.

Do they actually have any power or is it just a bunch of narcissists wearing silly outfits? Because it sounds like the later, and if that's the case, who cares? It appears to be a body of people put in to give the impression that they listen to the students, as a way of impressing regulators rather than actually achieving anything.

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29 Dec 2014, 4:59 pm

They're pretty much just a bunch of narcissists who put on silly outfits. Were they elected? I'm actually not sure, since I never knew about them (in fact this seems like an elite-only election). They definitely share one thing in common though.

What bothers me though is that this is legitimately considered a solution to things like fights, low grades, etc. I s**t you not, this actually has support.

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29 Dec 2014, 6:17 pm

Hansgrohe wrote:

Well, even if they were elected, the elitist jock types of people are always more popular than others anyway, purely because everyone wants to try and gain favour with them.

Are you sure it has the support of the high school? I don't know if American schools are inspected, but British schools are, and during there inspection years teachers tend to start doing stuff they don't neccesarily believe in or want to do, purely to impress inspectors.

It's also a convenient way of shutting pupils up, giving the impression they have a say in the school, when in reality they couldn't care less what you think...

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29 Dec 2014, 7:28 pm

I actually would like to disagree with you, high schools tend to put student leaderships in place because they'e sort of obligated, they usually hold no power or influence and are there for kicks and giggles. Also I think that maybe participating in a bit of school spirit would help you tolerate people, find a group of people you can stand to be around, the band, or the choir, the chess club. You should also try to see the other side of NT's, they aren't ALL narcissistic and slaves to, being social.

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29 Dec 2014, 7:43 pm

Hansgrohe wrote:

Fnord wrote:

These "Leadership Groups" seem suspiciously like a certain brown-shirted "Youth Corps" that was popular in certain parts of Northern Europe from the mid-1930s to about 1945.

Have they actually done anything prejudiced towards non-NT's aside from not adding a representative (which if it is a normal student body organization is not a problem since they don't hold any real power). If we are to be completely honest here the one being prejudiced here is, not to be offensive, you (this also applies to the original poster). You are making some pretty unfair generalizations of NT's, some of them ARE narcissistic teens obsessed with social media, but not all of them are. I am one of 9 non-NT's in my high school, but the NTs while there are the jerks, most of them are nice if you actually stick around long enough to see it. I am sorry if this offends you.

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31 Dec 2014, 5:21 am

Hansgrohe wrote:

In our school district, you simply volunteer, although it is subject to approval, and some students might be strongly encouraged by faculty to volunteer. They mostly do things like help the freshman learn where things are, serve as guides for parents at back to school night, etc. No uniforms; just T-shirts for the times they are actually doing the volunteer work.

Let's be blunt, you wouldn't WANT to do it, and they don't have to affect your life if you don't want them to, so why even spend more than a second thinking about it? It seems to me that there is still plenty of room in a high school for everyone to find their niche and focus on what suits them, despite all the issues that exist in modern education. Let the kids who like that sort of thing have it.

My ASD son, by the way, gets asked to take on leadership roles; it will never feel natural to him, but he is well trained in how to lead, believe it or not, through years in Scouting, and the teachers in high school saw it quickly. But the sort of group you described is not something he would ever be interested in; he feels pretty much the same way you do about it: more about popularity than really leading.

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