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01 Jan 2015, 2:54 pm

he is a real person alright. He has internet notoriety stretching back to late 2007 when he used to post youtube videos on a regular basis using his own identity. All of his material is still on youtube if you care to delve into the mess.


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02 Jan 2015, 7:55 am

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he is a real person alright. He has internet notoriety stretching back to late 2007 when he used to post youtube videos on a regular basis using his own identity. All of his material is still on youtube if you care to delve into the mess.


Yeah he's real, he's also been posting all these details about his life no one cares about on 4chan.



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03 Jan 2015, 11:58 am

This is just like when Chris and Barb tried to run Michael Shynder over, but worse.



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04 Jan 2015, 6:03 pm

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I'm actually pretty glad this guy is off the streets, but I have incredibly mixed feelings on what further media attention this guy gets. Yeeshhh. THIS is the Autism/Asperger syndrome the media wants to show. The f**k ups, the real failures, etc in order to maintain a certain role model to be propagated to the public. Sounds depressing or crazy, but it's true, and it's not even "the government"; these are civilian-run entities.

I'm still waiting for an autistic equivalent of 2Pac, Ice Cube, or such. Seems to be a while away though.


I honestly think they show him and others who do crazy s**t like that simply because they do crazy s**t. Who would turn on the news if they knew the headline would be "Mother with Asperger's Syndrome trims shrubbery in front yard. Bushes are remarkably even. Afterwards her spouse grilled hamburgers in the driveway. The event proceeded without incident."

I would watch his antics on the news and laugh at him and say "Look at that crazy ass Motherf***er!" because to me that's the key description right there. It's not AS that makes him do what he does, it's crazy (and I don't mean mental illness, I mean just flat out nuts - it's really not the same thing) I think that kind of crazy is the main factor in people who are pathologically and psychologically fine and dandy decide to just throw caution to the wind and pull some stupid stunt that they are aware can end no other way except very badly for them, for no reason at all except that they just want to. I see people like that fairly often and that's what I think is wrong with him. People with AS can have that just like NT's can.


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04 Jan 2015, 6:16 pm

I always had a modicum of sympathy for Chris-Chan. For the most part, I believed that he genuinely didn't understand a lot of what he was saying or doing, and a lot of the objectionable stuff that he did was just the result of his misguided child-like mind worsened by his bad upbringing by awful parents. Provided, he's still a creep, but even when his house burned down I saw fit to buy one of his autographed photos on eBay just to help him out a little bit. Call me Mr. Compassionate, I guess.

I've been following Chris for a couple years (seriously, the CWCki is a remarkable achievement) and I really thought he was making a little bit of progress as a human being. For a while he seemed to have a much more stable attitude and even made a huge stride in coming out as LGBT and supporting equal rights, but now he's gone and done this and it turns out nothing has really changed at all.

I'm really curious to see what happens at his court hearing. What he did was a felony punishable by at least a year in jail.



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04 Jan 2015, 11:30 pm

He needs a reality check. He should go to jail. Pepper spraying people like he did is not acceptable. He should have been taught that as a child. So now he has to learn the hard way.



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05 Jan 2015, 11:20 am

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He needs a reality check. He should go to jail. Pepper spraying people like he did is not acceptable. He should have been taught that as a child. So now he has to learn the hard way.


He should have been taught a lot of things as a child but his parents are just as irresponsible and unreasonable as he is. Chris should be held accountable for a lot of the stuff he does, but one can't overlook that if he had better parents and a better upbringing, he wouldn't be anything like the person he is today.



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05 Jan 2015, 12:10 pm

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He needs a reality check. He should go to jail. Pepper spraying people like he did is not acceptable. He should have been taught that as a child. So now he has to learn the hard way.


He should have been taught a lot of things as a child but his parents are just as irresponsible and unreasonable as he is. Chris should be held accountable for a lot of the stuff he does, but one can't overlook that if he had better parents and a better upbringing, he wouldn't be anything like the person he is today.


Yeah, but to a certain extent the same can be said of anyone. If he truly does not know that his actions were wrong I suppose he could be found incompetent. Maybe he'd go into care or something. But either way, he needs to get a grip.



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05 Jan 2015, 12:30 pm

Chris is intelligent (not in the sense of being smart, but you know what I mean) enough to know the basics of right and wrong. This was wrong, he does not see that he was wrong, and he needs to be reprimanded for it. Doing time is the only thing that might show him that he was wrong, though I doubt it with his past actions.

I think there should just be a blanket ban on talking about him here. He's a very hateful individual, an ableist himself even though he is on the spectrum, a racist, a homophobe and a multitude of other nasty things. It's better to ignore him than give him the light of day by talking about him.



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05 Jan 2015, 12:52 pm

Chris is an adult now so he is now responsible for his choices and his actions. If he can't be held accountable, then he should perhaps be in an institution or group home and have a companion with him at all times and not allowed to be alone if he isn't able to make the right choices and be held responsible. This is what my therapist told me in high school how everyone is responsible for their actions, that is how it is in our country and if we can't be responsible, we shouldn't be in the real world. That is why some criminals get hospitalized when found not guilty because of their incompetence or mental illness like Skywalker who killed his mother was hospitalized and all charges were dropped because he was found unfit to stand trial. I wonder what would have happened if he was in a group home and he killed one of the carers there or another person who was a resident there? Would the same result have happened?


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05 Jan 2015, 3:04 pm

As strange an individual as he is, Chris is indeed mentally competent enough to stand trial. He's had a major run-in with the law before and he's also had a psychiatric evaluation. He's responsible for his actions and if found guilty, he'll serve regular jail time.



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05 Jan 2015, 3:18 pm

The worst part about this; Is that incredibly stupid people will come out and say "That's Autism", and spread around even more stigma about us, further aggravating our situation.

Gee, thanks a bunch Chris-Chan.



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05 Jan 2015, 3:56 pm

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The worst part about this; Is that incredibly stupid people will come out and say "That's Autism", and spread around even more stigma about us, further aggravating our situation.

Gee, thanks a bunch Chris-Chan.


Honestly, of all the people I know who know about Chris-Chan (who aren't 4-Chan/Encyclopedia Dramatica trolls), they clearly delineate between Chris and autism. Maybe that's not true of 100% of people, but I think Chris has become such an infamous entity in his own right that no kind of condition adequately explains his behavior.



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05 Jan 2015, 4:04 pm

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Moromillas wrote:
The worst part about this; Is that incredibly stupid people will come out and say "That's Autism", and spread around even more stigma about us, further aggravating our situation.

Gee, thanks a bunch Chris-Chan.


Honestly, of all the people I know who know about Chris-Chan (who aren't 4-Chan/Encyclopedia Dramatica trolls), they clearly delineate between Chris and autism. Maybe that's not true of 100% of people, but I think Chris has become such an infamous entity in his own right that no kind of condition adequately explains his behavior.


In every discussion I've seen on Chris-Chan, people are saying that it's the culmination of Autism, or that it's Autism in its purest form, or that it's a prime example of what Autism is, or that it's Autism gone wild, all of that talk is very common. You have to have not seen much discussion to think otherwise.



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05 Jan 2015, 4:18 pm

Moromillas wrote:
Skibz888 wrote:
Moromillas wrote:
The worst part about this; Is that incredibly stupid people will come out and say "That's Autism", and spread around even more stigma about us, further aggravating our situation.

Gee, thanks a bunch Chris-Chan.


Honestly, of all the people I know who know about Chris-Chan (who aren't 4-Chan/Encyclopedia Dramatica trolls), they clearly delineate between Chris and autism. Maybe that's not true of 100% of people, but I think Chris has become such an infamous entity in his own right that no kind of condition adequately explains his behavior.


In every discussion I've seen on Chris-Chan, people are saying that it's the culmination of Autism, or that it's Autism in its purest form, or that it's a prime example of what Autism is, or that it's Autism gone wild, all of that talk is very common. You have to have not seen much discussion to think otherwise.


It's not like I regularly join discussions about Christian Weston Chandler. I'm just basing that on the people who know about his antics in my own real-life and online circle. Different perspectives, I guess.



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05 Jan 2015, 11:48 pm

I'm just gonna copy and paste this from my tumblr:

Many in the Autistic Community are proud of their Autism and rarely use it as a crutch to excuse certain, deplorable behaviors. Then we have some like Christian Weston Chandler or Chris-Chan as he’s known on the Internet, a 32- year old man child who lives in his mother’s basement and writes/draws fanfiction. Whether or not he has Autism is uncertain but he claims to have it which puts him on my radar. The man believes that his works are brilliant and that the only reason SEGA and Nintendo haven’t bought up his fanfic and made a franchise out of it is because they’re either A. Evil greedy bastards or B. Playing Hardball.

Mr. Chandler once sent out death threats to people, defaced public property, and maced a GameStop employee all over the fact that Sonic the Hedgehog’s arms were colored from flesh to blue in a sub-franchise called Sonic Boom which is considered to be not related to games like Sonic Generations and Sonic Lost World. I use this to highlight the fact that this man is so far gone from reality that he assaults people over a characters arm skin going to a fur color because he believes it’s so important unlike stuff like Ferguson or the Rise of ISIS.

Chris Chan represents the belief that Autism is some sort of dark malevolent force that feeds on you and controls you. In reality this is far from the truth as it is who we are. Autism is a part of us and if you remove Autism you remove who we are as beings, and I would rather be dead than someone else entirely.

Chris-Chan also highlights what happens if we accept a doctrine of pity and fear like what Autism Speaks spreads. Because part of that doctrine means we’re never to be held responsible for our actions. If that sounds good then think about what that attitude leads to; never wanting to better ourselves, being in the same place that we were 10 years ago, wasting our lives away. From what I understand his parents never told him he was wrong or that he needed to grow up they just encouraged him. But we need that kind of criticism in our lives from our families, that’s called constructive criticism it’s meant to better us as people and make us productive members of society. Without it we would still be children, that applies to both neurotypicals and people with autism.


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