autism supremacy is a need

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How would you take the answer If I responded to this and you at first did not agree with it ?

In my first post here I asked a question, how would a young AS feel if ten years from now she he had a NT partner, kids and NT (er lets use this word our way) 'friends' ( this is not he same meaning as to NT's "but OK people there") an looked back at period in their life when they had hated these people ?

It would seem a waste I guess if that was their potential to achieve this?

Of course. I shall be meeting her very soon to have a chat and I shall talk about you. On the rebound, do your parents hate you? From my own knowledge most of us are born to parents unlike us. As for respect, I can say some of my teachers like me. I think you are incapable of telling which of them really are your friend or your foe because you can't read in to them. It's the same problem as when many of them can't read you and they get all agressive, offensive and arrogant. In the end you act no different than them. If we were like you and they were the minority we'd treat them no better and for no damn reason than selfish pride and ignorance.

Point on parents and hate- parents don't want to hate, take my word for it, fortunately I don't I have good relations
very good with my kids.

When parents hate it's because they are caught up in a process they cant get themselves out of and need the help of others to do so. - It's a cycle, usually. Break the cycle , evelove. that's the rule.

I hate my mom but my dad has a lot of AS symptoms so I can get along with him sometimes. I think I am a good judge of people, anyone who tries to look me in the eye is evil. I never said that you shouldn't be friends with NTs. I just think it is important that they kn ow that they can't mess around with you and that I am better than them and they should respect that.

I'm really interested in what you have to say. AS48

I wondering, because you have an analytical mind , where you think this parent hate thing originates . I'm sure most parents don't want to hate , like kid soldiers don't really want to kill , but they can't help it becuase there's a powerful set of forces acting on them and they can't stand or fight aginst them. - Are these the fighting skills maybe we need?

I'm wonding what those forces are.

Of course you don't think that they're evil, that's why your advocating supremacy. Do you know what supremacy means in this situation? It means opression and unfairness? You want equality? I would be behind you. You want to be understood? I would be behind you. You want a future filled with progress? I would be behind you. You want to advocate the violent dismissal of a whole race, a race over seven billlion strong? Not a chance.

well I think that people have pushed me and I need to stand and use my fighting strength to make sure that they don't take away everything I own and force me to be someone I'm not. i am really just a person who wants to survive and if possible survive well. I believe that survival is at the root of everything simply because I don't want to die. This is a dog eat dog world, so either you eat or you are eaten. And that is why I must always be on top.

Best recent example of supreme thinking is Camabodia . This guy persuded other guys to get rid of the middle class , doctors , teachers, lawyers etc so they got death squads together murdered them by their thousands . The country went back to the stone age and found they couln't feed themsleves adequetely because they hadn't realised you needed central planning and stuff like ehalth care and eduction for a population the size of Cambodia . When the journalists finally got in from other countries there were fields that looked like the future scenes from the film the terminator.

Now lets not forget Serbia.one bunch of NT's decided another bunch were inferior and they started a civil war which ended up with guess what? acres of land filled with with bulldozed mass graves, again.

Talking of mass graves , well we weren't before I posted this but I guess if you went to Congo, Rwanda or any of these places and you took a forensic kit and started digging you would find guess what? Again

Thing is all these guys doing the killing , not the leader,s who get caught up in this , like child soldiers , start out ordinary people just like you an me. They say they "we were carried away , didn't want to do it, had no choice the reality was madness" and they can't shut their eyes to sleep because what they did in those times is so burned in their brains they can't forget.

I don't know what this means, do you?

As humans our whole world view is based on our personal experience. At 15, you've obviously had some run-ins with people that didn't treat you well. Your signature line says it all. Part of the ability that we gain as we grow older, is the ability to discern the complexity in the world, and attempt to navigate it successfully. It would be easy to continue to assume because some people looked you in the eye and you discerned it as disrespect, that that is the reason all people would look at you in the eye, even if they were trying to understand you and give you some kind of encouragement; they can't do that if you give don't give them a chance.

Take my word for it, there are normal people in this world that respect others with difference, as long as they are treated in a civil manner by those that have the differences. If you don't give them a chance to do it, it's not likely you will experience it very often.

Regardless of how you were born, the only way to get respect is to earn it, unless you had complete control and could command respect. However, even if that was the case, it wouldn't be earned respect, it would just be a display of respect that means nothing, expect the person doesn't have any choice but to display respect.

I worked for a Captain of a Military Installation that abused her authority and demanded respect. When she was out of the room, everyone talk bad about her, because absolutely no one respected her, and she had no one that would truly watch her back.

If you are ever in a dominate position and demand unreasonable respect and actually see a display of it, because you have an idea like the Captain had that she was better and smarter than everyone else, it won't be real respect, everyone has to work to earn that; it doesn't come natural. The people that get the most respect are those that are confident in themselves and have nothing to prove.

hey I think that you just don't get it. Feel free to inform yourself of my viewpoint. I don't want to state all my viewpoints and elaborate on them here because I have a lot of views. I have a site with a blog where I write about my views http://autism-supremacy.webs.com/apps/blog/ Supremacy simply means the belief that you are better than other people. It in no way implies that I will kill anyone or oppress anyone. My strategy is to force NTs to change to my perspective, if they don't I will exclude them and make sure that they do not become successful. I will be understood, as being someone who people should respect and look up to. Last point I think I have said before in my strategy that I wanted progress.

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Anyway - I got to get up in the morning and take my youngest to work with me tommorrow. Just think, no BS here, - I'm a parent I'll be thinking kindly of you , and you not even my kid, so imagine if you take "kindly"
and multiply it by itself a load of times then you know what parents try to feel for their kids. And maybe you figure the forces that stop them felling this and acting on theses good instincts. When you do let me know because you will be a damn sight more evolving than half the population on the planet locked in a struggle against itself.

Night.

One last thought before I go to bed- did it ever occur to you some NT like the guy who manged to persaude ordinary cambodian people to murder other normal ordinary people , maybe not him, maybe some guy long dead ,or some guy alive now, I don't know exactly which one in your case, decided he needed to neutralize you and those like you ? Why? Because guys like you can see the system when the herd is going murder crazy and you are so dangerous to people like that- so he did something you'd never believe possible ? You any ideahow he/they could have done that ?.

You are so dangerous to them, that's why you and people like you were and are neutalized.

Don't belive me? I can show you . And when you see what's done to you and why, it will blow your mind. I teach you some of it, not all , enough to get by.

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I would be ok with faked respect. No one has ever watched my back and probably no one will, so no gain no loss. Your right about personal experience my experience is indeed that NTs will always treat me badly, try to trick me, and undermine me. As I have said before NTs treat me the same no matter what I do, they will always try to abuse me if I can't find a way to prevent them from doing that. If I am still alive and I have money by the time I am 18 I will be a lucky man. I really could care less how people treat me.

You don't have any sense of right and wrong do you?



You're not the only one. People do it to each other whoever and wherever they are. I have it done to me by people, and then I don't have it done to me by every single NT. You are paranoid.


Then find a damn way rather than writing them off! I understand independence but Supremacism is senseless.



Of course you do care, because that's why you're using this Supremacy argument to protect yourself in the first place. I really can't stop finding holes in your arguments!

You state you are not going to oppress anyone, but you state your strategy is to force others to be like you and if they don't change to your perspective, you will exclude them, and make sure they do not become successful.

If someone forced you to be like them and if you didn't change to their perspective, they excluded you, and made an intentional effort to see you fail, would you consider that oppression?

The number of points of view and perspective among human beings is as complex as the Universe itself. If everyone thought they had all the correct answers and didn't respect anyone elses point of view, the whole human race would be doomed. There's no potential for progress in that ideology; only a potential to be ignored as insignificant, if one does not learn to cooperate with those that have different point of views.

I think your evidence that you are better than anyone is that you skipped a grade and got good grades. Success in life can be gained by positively influencing others to motivate them to interact with you in ways that will allow to have success. That's not the way the NT world works, it's the way human nature works. While there is academic intelligence, there is also social intelligence.

Some with higher levels of social intelligence have to work harder at academic skills, and some with higher levels of academic intelligence have to work harder at gaining social skills.

If you don't want to work harder to gain the kind of social skills that will give you a better opportunity for success in life when dealing with others, that's fine not everyone cares to, but it would be best if you choose a career that involves little social interaction, because if you are involved in a workplace that requires it, you get graded on that your entire life. Academic grading ends when you get out of school; social intelligence grading continues your entire life, unless you avoid people.

The first step in learning Social Intelligence is to understand everyone is different, and to learn the skills that will enable an individual to get along with a variety of people. The worst possible thing, and the indication of the lowest social intelligence, is the idea that other people should change to be like them. It's not only an idea that won't work, it's scientifically proven as an impossible goal. All people are born different; not just Autistic people, scientific research proves it. You can't make a square peg fit into a round hole.

What this means too, is it's going to be hard for you to change your feeling about people in general, but if you can it will be more likely that you will be able to live the fullest experiences in life, and not be trapped in a smaller world. People, a multitude of them, all different by nature are everywhere where we look, they are hard to escape unless one puts themself in a smaller world.

I read your ideas about a world just for people with Autism. It's not a schizophrenic world, a Bi-polar world, a depressed world, a happy world, an intelligent world, an average intelligence world, a below average intelligent world, an extroverted world, an introverted world. I could fill pages and pages with continued different kinds of people, that have perspectives different from you, that you will never be able to force to be like you, until I described all Seven Billion of them. You can try to avoid them all if you like, but it may be easier overall, if you don't.

I've seen very few here that share your perspectives; they are autistic, so that should give you some indication that the perspective won't work, here or in real life.

Sweet Holy...

What? Are you insane? Do you not think for one second that what you are doing isn't exactly the same as many people have treated you in the past? I can't believe this! You claim to be superior but all you do is repeat the foulest defect of those you were mistreated by, through forcing them adhere to what you want or be punished with failure! You somehow still ignore the fact that you have yet to claim superiority to any people. I know very well that people would resist, not that they would ever be threatened by such open insanity! Now please get that progress is not achieved through such insane ideas as Supremacism!

It was hard enough to have Autism, when I was growing up. I can't imagine how hard it is to have it today. I don't judge you as an individual. When I was not much younger than you, I was quite sure my dog was the only true friend I had in the world. I didn't know why my classmates told me I didn't deserve to exist; I tried to find positive ways to exist and didn't give up hope for a better day.

Maybe it was better that I didn't have a diagnosis, I was sure that I could change and be okay. My understanding was for whatever reason I was much different than others, but I took it as an incentive to be the best I could, not as anger against others. That motivation took me much farther in life, than I would have probably gone if I was accepted like everyone else.

I can see you are every bit as troubled as I was, and are using this as an avenue to fight back to maintain dignity for yourself. It's not a problem that you tried it, it's obvious you are angry, but if there is any way possible, use it as a motivation to move in a positive direction. I have no idea of what your avenue may be, but if you turn the anger into positive motivation, just to do the best that you can; your chances of success are much greater.

I know what it feels like when it seems like everyone is telling you that you don't belong here. As you grow older, you may find there are many people in the world that aren't as bad as they seem now. And, keep in mind that most people in highschool experience similar feelings, it's just harder for some than others; many never talk about it. I never told anyone what I was going through then, until much later in life, when I finally got a diagnosis.