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Could we see electoral victors with Aspergers?
Yeah! One day we'll see a president with Aspergers! 44%  44%  [ 19 ]
Not for president, but maybe Congress? 7%  7%  [ 3 ]
National office is out, but local elections could work 5%  5%  [ 2 ]
No, but it would be great if we could 19%  19%  [ 8 ]
No, and it's better that way 5%  5%  [ 2 ]
Not sure 21%  21%  [ 9 ]
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31 Jan 2014, 5:08 pm

Please stop trying to diagnose dead people... it is not possible


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02 Feb 2014, 1:49 pm

Yes it definetely possible. And we may have already had several presidents somewhere on the autistic spectrum, we just never found out and likely never will. Many historical people are suspected to have had it but we can never tell anymore as they never got diagnosed. But statistically speaking, it is almost impossible never a single president ever has had autism.



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17 Feb 2014, 1:47 am

Here is my opinion: It seems to me that Aspies most likely stick together and look out more for their own political interests than that of the general population.



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17 Feb 2014, 5:35 am

Charloz wrote:
Yes it definetely possible. And we may have already had several presidents somewhere on the autistic spectrum, we just never found out and likely never will. Many historical people are suspected to have had it but we can never tell anymore as they never got diagnosed. But statistically speaking, it is almost impossible never a single president ever has had autism.

No... It is not... diagnostics of psychological conditions REQUIRES interaction with the subject BY A MENTAL HEALTH PROFESSIONAL. if the person is dead now, the only way to obtain a diagnosis for any condition they had while alive is if they were diagnosed before they died. Period. End of story... And if someone has told you differently, and they are a mental health professional, I recommend that you report them to the local medical board for malpractice. A diagnosis means that we KNOW FOR A FACT... And those people you refer to are suspected to have been autistic, NOT diagnoses... huge difference...

As for presidents... Let's look at the numbers... today, we have 311 million people in this country... only 42 of which has been a president... in the last 200+ years, there have been a great many more people than the 311 million... BUT... if we just go with todays numbers and the suspected to be over diagnosed 1 in 8 with autism... The chances that an american president had autism is .0000001080385%. Statistically... that is unlikely.


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17 Feb 2014, 5:36 am

GinBlossoms wrote:
Here is my opinion: It seems to me that Aspies most likely stick together and look out more for their own political interests than that of the general population.

As an Aspie running for president, I can say my own platform has nothing along those lines...


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17 Feb 2014, 9:27 am

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If one did I'd feel sorry for him/her. Seems like a horrible job for an aspie, right up there with telemarketing. It's all about social skills as far as I can see.

Besides, we don't need to win elections to have a voice, just vote - or at least where elections aren't rigged. :roll:


I've actually done telemarketing.
It wasn't that bad.

I've had worse jobs, like teaching middle schoolers. *shudder*



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17 Feb 2014, 9:55 am

Feralucce wrote:
See... That's where you are wrong... some of us have stage presence and an ability to talk... (Dan akryoid is but one example)... My chosen line of work is as a film director and writer... and my work has taken awards... I might have a chance.

My intent to run announdement is HERE.

and my platform is HERE


I like most of your platform, except the flat tax.
Flat taxes are regressive, that is to say they burden the poor & middle class far more than the wealthy.
Also, there's a direct correlation between high marginal tax rates on the top income earners and economic growth, because high marginal tax rates force high income earners who wish to keep much of that income in some form to re-invest much of it in their companies which helps to grow our economy.

Just my 2cents, of course...



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17 Feb 2014, 10:03 am

Feralucce wrote:
Charloz wrote:
Yes it definetely possible. And we may have already had several presidents somewhere on the autistic spectrum, we just never found out and likely never will. Many historical people are suspected to have had it but we can never tell anymore as they never got diagnosed. But statistically speaking, it is almost impossible never a single president ever has had autism.

No... It is not... diagnostics of psychological conditions REQUIRES interaction with the subject BY A MENTAL HEALTH PROFESSIONAL. if the person is dead now, the only way to obtain a diagnosis for any condition they had while alive is if they were diagnosed before they died. Period. End of story... And if someone has told you differently, and they are a mental health professional, I recommend that you report them to the local medical board for malpractice. A diagnosis means that we KNOW FOR A FACT... And those people you refer to are suspected to have been autistic, NOT diagnoses... huge difference...

As for presidents... Let's look at the numbers... today, we have 311 million people in this country... only 42 of which has been a president... in the last 200+ years, there have been a great many more people than the 311 million... BUT... if we just go with todays numbers and the suspected to be over diagnosed 1 in 8 with autism... The chances that an american president had autism is .0000001080385%. Statistically... that is unlikely.


Those numbers are wrong.
If 1 in 8 peole have autism on average, then 5.25 presidents would, on average, have autism unless the prevelence of autism in American presidents is lower than in the general population, and afaik there's no way to prove that.
All you found was the percentage out of 311million people who were, on average, presidents with autism, not the statistical likelihood of that happening.



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17 Feb 2014, 11:32 am

Feralucce wrote:
Charloz wrote:
Yes it definetely possible. And we may have already had several presidents somewhere on the autistic spectrum, we just never found out and likely never will. Many historical people are suspected to have had it but we can never tell anymore as they never got diagnosed. But statistically speaking, it is almost impossible never a single president ever has had autism.

No... It is not... diagnostics of psychological conditions REQUIRES interaction with the subject BY A MENTAL HEALTH PROFESSIONAL. if the person is dead now, the only way to obtain a diagnosis for any condition they had while alive is if they were diagnosed before they died. Period. End of story... And if someone has told you differently, and they are a mental health professional, I recommend that you report them to the local medical board for malpractice. A diagnosis means that we KNOW FOR A FACT... And those people you refer to are suspected to have been autistic, NOT diagnoses... huge difference...

As for presidents... Let's look at the numbers... today, we have 311 million people in this country... only 42 of which has been a president... in the last 200+ years, there have been a great many more people than the 311 million... BUT... if we just go with todays numbers and the suspected to be over diagnosed 1 in 8 with autism... The chances that an american president had autism is .0000001080385%. Statistically... that is unlikely.


I agree, but just to make the number more accurate you should use the the number of Americans who have lived since 1776, which would be 545 million. Only 55% of Americans are alive today.



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17 Feb 2014, 11:33 am

Feralucce wrote:
Charloz wrote:
Yes it definetely possible. And we may have already had several presidents somewhere on the autistic spectrum, we just never found out and likely never will. Many historical people are suspected to have had it but we can never tell anymore as they never got diagnosed. But statistically speaking, it is almost impossible never a single president ever has had autism.

No... It is not... diagnostics of psychological conditions REQUIRES interaction with the subject BY A MENTAL HEALTH PROFESSIONAL. if the person is dead now, the only way to obtain a diagnosis for any condition they had while alive is if they were diagnosed before they died. Period. End of story... And if someone has told you differently, and they are a mental health professional, I recommend that you report them to the local medical board for malpractice. A diagnosis means that we KNOW FOR A FACT... And those people you refer to are suspected to have been autistic, NOT diagnoses... huge difference...

As for presidents... Let's look at the numbers... today, we have 311 million people in this country... only 42 of which has been a president... in the last 200+ years, there have been a great many more people than the 311 million... BUT... if we just go with todays numbers and the suspected to be over diagnosed 1 in 8 with autism... The chances that an american president had autism is .0000001080385%. Statistically... that is unlikely.


I agree, but just to make the number more accurate you should use the the number of Americans who have lived since 1776, which would be 545 million. Only 55% of Americans are alive today.



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17 Feb 2014, 10:21 pm

Bodyles wrote:
Feralucce wrote:
See... That's where you are wrong... some of us have stage presence and an ability to talk... (Dan akryoid is but one example)... My chosen line of work is as a film director and writer... and my work has taken awards... I might have a chance.

My intent to run announdement is HERE.

and my platform is HERE


I like most of your platform, except the flat tax.
Flat taxes are regressive, that is to say they burden the poor & middle class far more than the wealthy.
Also, there's a direct correlation between high marginal tax rates on the top income earners and economic growth, because high marginal tax rates force high income earners who wish to keep much of that income in some form to re-invest much of it in their companies which helps to grow our economy.

Just my 2cents, of course...

Actually... the term flat tax, as applied by modern politics is what you are referring to...

I am talking a TRUE level and flat tax across the board... Honestly... This country would be in a much better place if the wealthy would just pay their fair share.


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17 Feb 2014, 10:32 pm

Bodyles wrote:
Feralucce wrote:
Charloz wrote:
Yes it definetely possible. And we may have already had several presidents somewhere on the autistic spectrum, we just never found out and likely never will. Many historical people are suspected to have had it but we can never tell anymore as they never got diagnosed. But statistically speaking, it is almost impossible never a single president ever has had autism.

No... It is not... diagnostics of psychological conditions REQUIRES interaction with the subject BY A MENTAL HEALTH PROFESSIONAL. if the person is dead now, the only way to obtain a diagnosis for any condition they had while alive is if they were diagnosed before they died. Period. End of story... And if someone has told you differently, and they are a mental health professional, I recommend that you report them to the local medical board for malpractice. A diagnosis means that we KNOW FOR A FACT... And those people you refer to are suspected to have been autistic, NOT diagnoses... huge difference...

As for presidents... Let's look at the numbers... today, we have 311 million people in this country... only 42 of which has been a president... in the last 200+ years, there have been a great many more people than the 311 million... BUT... if we just go with todays numbers and the suspected to be over diagnosed 1 in 8 with autism... The chances that an american president had autism is .0000001080385%. Statistically... that is unlikely.


Those numbers are wrong.
If 1 in 8 peole have autism on average, then 5.25 presidents would, on average, have autism unless the prevelence of autism in American presidents is lower than in the general population, and afaik there's no way to prove that.
All you found was the percentage out of 311million people who were, on average, presidents with autism, not the statistical likelihood of that happening.


Taking the presidents as your sample size is not a statistically sound calculation...

But... let's just assume that I am completely wrong on that...

You STILL cannot diagnose a dead person.


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17 Feb 2014, 10:34 pm

Max000 wrote:
Feralucce wrote:
Charloz wrote:
Yes it definetely possible. And we may have already had several presidents somewhere on the autistic spectrum, we just never found out and likely never will. Many historical people are suspected to have had it but we can never tell anymore as they never got diagnosed. But statistically speaking, it is almost impossible never a single president ever has had autism.

No... It is not... diagnostics of psychological conditions REQUIRES interaction with the subject BY A MENTAL HEALTH PROFESSIONAL. if the person is dead now, the only way to obtain a diagnosis for any condition they had while alive is if they were diagnosed before they died. Period. End of story... And if someone has told you differently, and they are a mental health professional, I recommend that you report them to the local medical board for malpractice. A diagnosis means that we KNOW FOR A FACT... And those people you refer to are suspected to have been autistic, NOT diagnoses... huge difference...

As for presidents... Let's look at the numbers... today, we have 311 million people in this country... only 42 of which has been a president... in the last 200+ years, there have been a great many more people than the 311 million... BUT... if we just go with todays numbers and the suspected to be over diagnosed 1 in 8 with autism... The chances that an american president had autism is .0000001080385%. Statistically... that is unlikely.


I agree, but just to make the number more accurate you should use the the number of Americans who have lived since 1776, which would be 545 million. Only 55% of Americans are alive today.


I know... but I was maximizing the percentages by limiting the sample sizes...


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18 Feb 2014, 10:57 pm

i\What is your position on support for the disabled? also,heath care, a public option?,



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19 Feb 2014, 1:23 am

A statement by John F. Kennedy sums it up

If a free society cannot help the many who are poor, it cannot save the few who are rich.


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