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11 Jul 2011, 5:50 pm

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Supremacy simply means the belief that you are better than other people. It in no way implies that I will kill anyone or oppress anyone. My strategy is to force NTs to change to my perspective, if they don't I will exclude them and make sure that they do not become successful. I will be understood, as being someone who people should respect and look up to. Last point I think I have said before in my strategy that I wanted progress.


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What? Are you insane? Do you not think for one second that what you are doing isn't exactly the same as many people have treated you in the past? I can't believe this! You claim to be superior but all you do is repeat the foulest defect of those you were mistreated by, through forcing them adhere to what you want or be punished with failure! You somehow still ignore the fact that you have yet to claim superiority to any people. I know very well that people would resist, not that they would ever be threatened by such open insanity! Now please get that progress is not achieved through such insane ideas as Supremacism!

I'm afraid that I have to repeat my idea of supremacy because it is how nature works. Even a beetle in a carpet is a supremacist because it competes with other beetles for resources. Don't try to deny that you have never competed with anyone for a job, for social standing, for resources. Losing all those battles would be the only way to avoid being supremacist, and then you would be a real loser. Do you really think that I need justification and arguments to compete with others and desire to come out on top? Its not insanity...



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11 Jul 2011, 6:02 pm

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Supremacy simply means the belief that you are better than other people. It in no way implies that I will kill anyone or oppress anyone. My strategy is to force NTs to change to my perspective, if they don't I will exclude them and make sure that they do not become successful. I will be understood, as being someone who people should respect and look up to. Last point I think I have said before in my strategy that I wanted progress.


Sweet Holy...

What? Are you insane? Do you not think for one second that what you are doing isn't exactly the same as many people have treated you in the past? I can't believe this! You claim to be superior but all you do is repeat the foulest defect of those you were mistreated by, through forcing them adhere to what you want or be punished with failure! You somehow still ignore the fact that you have yet to claim superiority to any people. I know very well that people would resist, not that they would ever be threatened by such open insanity! Now please get that progress is not achieved through such insane ideas as Supremacism!

I'm afraid that I have to repeat my idea of supremacy because it is how nature works. Even a beetle in a carpet is a supremacist because it competes with other beetles for resources. Don't try to deny that you have never competed with anyone for a job, for social standing, for resources. Losing all those battles would be the only way to avoid being supremacist, and then you would be a real loser. Do you really think that I need justification and arguments to compete with others and desire to come out on top? Its not insanity...


There is social order among social animals; cooperation along with competition is what has led to the accomplishments of humans. Without cooperation and competition the advances of civilization would be impossible. The complicated part is knowing how to cooperate and compete at the same time. Solitary animals don't cooperate the way social ones do; and we can't escape the fact that we are social animals unless we escape others.

The problem is in stating your desire to force others to be like you; you don't see the need for cooperation; understandable, it doesn't sound like you've got much of it from others. However, considering the reality that cooperation is necessary to come out on top as well as competition, it's worth looking into effective ways to cooperate and influence others in a positive way. That's the hard part, some people never learn it.



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11 Jul 2011, 6:06 pm

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I'm afraid that I have to repeat my idea of supremacy because it is how nature works. Even a beetle in a carpet is a supremacist because it competes with other beetles for resources. Don't try to deny that you have never competed with anyone for a job, for social standing, for resources. Losing all those battles would be the only way to avoid being supremacist, and then you would be a real loser. Do you really think that I need justification and arguments to compete with others and desire to come out on top? Its not insanity...


Don't try and equate healthy competition with the gross violation of human rights and dignity. It's just the same as any Nazi this whole beetle competition thing. I've even seen Nazi propaganda videos talking about the same thing and the fact is that is a narrow minded view. of course we can find our place without opression.



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11 Jul 2011, 6:51 pm

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I'm afraid that I have to repeat my idea of supremacy because it is how nature works. Even a beetle in a carpet is a supremacist because it competes with other beetles for resources. Don't try to deny that you have never competed with anyone for a job, for social standing, for resources. Losing all those battles would be the only way to avoid being supremacist, and then you would be a real loser. Do you really think that I need justification and arguments to compete with others and desire to come out on top? Its not insanity...


Don't try and equate healthy competition with the gross violation of human rights and dignity. It's just the same as any Nazi this whole beetle competition thing. I've even seen Nazi propaganda videos talking about the same thing and the fact is that is a narrow minded view. of course we can find our place without opression.

goddam it I'm not a nazi!! !! and i never said i wanted to oppress anyone. I want to take away all the money from them by competition. jeez either take what i say at face value or don't argue, stop twisting my words.



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11 Jul 2011, 8:43 pm

Taking all the money from "them" as in the N.T's is vindictive, revenge and oppression. In Germany before WWII the ? Jewish were perceived as successful and removing progress, hope and success from the people of a certain genetic nationalism. This other then the Nazi's comparisons which to me is hog wash but I used it only because folks like you use it with their superiority ideas is just bad business, politics and public relations. I prefer to use the mentality "Together with". Job creation with the Neurotypicals to help people with autism be employed and part of the community. Together with our local community and nation made in America manufacturing in partnership with made in America manufactures of components and alike so.

A leadership philosophy may find short-term success and loyalty with a "them vs. us mentality". Yet a longer-term and more successful world-changing and system changing modality consists of partnerships with all walks of life. We together for instance compete with China but loyalty from the everyday consumer can be derived with made in america and as well as compassionate employment to help neutralize and or equalize better the imbalance. Your approach would sicken relations with potential allies in the pursuit for hope and change. Audacity comes in many forms. The kind that fails and that kind that succeeds even despite odds. Yet hope and change that is very well stable in philosophical and policy premise is not itself so very reliant on audacity alone.


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11 Jul 2011, 8:49 pm

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Taking all the money from "them" as in the N.T's is vindictive, revenge and oppression. In Germany before WWII the ? Jewish were perceived as successful and removing progress, hope and success from the people of a certain genetic nationalism. This other then the Nazi's comparisons which to me is hog wash but I used it only because folks like you use it with their superiority ideas is just bad business, politics and public relations. I prefer to use the mentality "Together with". Job creation with the Neurotypicals to help people with autism be employed and part of the community. Together with our local community and nation made in America manufacturing in partnership with made in America manufactures of components and alike so.

A leadership philosophy may find short-term success and loyalty with a "them vs. us mentality". Yet a longer-term and more successful world-changing and system changing modality consists of partnerships with all walks of life. We together for instance compete with China but loyalty from the everyday consumer can be derived with made in america and as well as compassionate employment to help neutralize and or equalize better the imbalance. Your approach would sicken relations with potential allies in the pursuit for hope and change. Audacity comes in many forms. The kind that fails and that kind that succeeds even despite odds. Yet hope and change that is very well stable in philosophical and policy premise is not itself so very reliant on audacity alone.

so you doubt me. is this an invitation for me to prove you wrong? I can make a lasting impact. if i become a leader and an important person i will. I want to become a person like that so i can influence the world in an autistic way.



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11 Jul 2011, 8:59 pm

Influencing the world while having autism is different from a specific philosophy which you implore. While I do not discount the possibility of leadership I will speak against leaderships that seek division and hard feelings as a way of philosophy. They are a danger to constructive resolve, resolution and real change. They replace real solutions with destructive hardships for all parties involved. Speaking of business and in context to this conversation the idea of fearing others into submission would only succeed in the short-term and in the moderate to longer future result in less positive change. When others are inspired to include and they are made part of that process it inspires them and they seek it. This instead of the strategy of persuasion that gets a few of them to do so whereas inclusion with positive and constructive change with them they tend to seek it and make it standard then that of the fight and plight of aggressive vindictiveness.

It is my best guess you are purposely and or subconsciously seeking failure to prove a point so as to empower a failed and rejected philosophy.


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11 Jul 2011, 9:05 pm

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It is my best guess you are purposely and or subconsciously seeking failure to prove a point so as to empower a failed and rejected philosophy.

why would you think that?



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11 Jul 2011, 9:07 pm

That is classified by the mother-ship. For all I know you could be a special interest trying to undermine progress and not a person with autism.

Please enjoy this selected video.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXrE_7YvRl4[/youtube]


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11 Jul 2011, 9:12 pm

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That is classified by the mother-ship. For all I know you could be a special interest trying to undermine progress and not a person with autism.

I believe someone agreed somewhere to not accuse people in this manner. and what the hell does classified by the mother-ship mean? are you supposed to be important with a title and all? i have noticed your ego stretches all over this forum of wp. for all i know you might be a strange sheep thing sir. idk its hard to judge on the internet
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQO-aOdJLiw[/youtube]



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11 Jul 2011, 9:17 pm

It's a joke. The website theme is aliens. It's interesting how you think my ego is so big when ego is both natural and healthy. But you claim to be superior to the majority of the rest of the world for having a disorder label applied to you. It's a nonesense argument to claim in any indirect way somehow my ego is big enough to be considered quite larger then your own when your philosophy and awareness is well strictly about ego and your being superior. I suggest you study the nature of ego and understand what it is in the more natural and evolutionary ways. I wouldn't divide it so much between neurological types but strictly as human ego.

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12 Jul 2011, 1:04 am

I can't believe this crap is still gong on... for 23 pages nonetheless! 8O


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12 Jul 2011, 1:05 am

:lol:


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12 Jul 2011, 3:44 am

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I can't believe this crap is still gong on... for 23 pages nonetheless! 8O


It makes complete sense! We are quite enthusiastic about things we get in to, including pummeling each other with rhetoric.



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12 Jul 2011, 3:57 am

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so you doubt me. is this an invitation for me to prove you wrong? I can make a lasting impact. if i become a leader and an important person i will. I want to become a person like that so i can influence the world in an autistic way.


Autistic is a word they made up for us! You aren't even capable of thinking straight. You want to make the world a better place by forcefully strangulating most of humanity in to a subservient position! You will only cause division and hardship even if anyone were to believe this were sane. I advocate self-determination and not supremacism. You just want to take petty revenge. An undying cycle of hatred that will cause others to see us as an actual threat! That makes you inferior to most people.

If you really wanted to be superior then you should ignore those who do evil to you unless it is life-threatening or something similar.



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12 Jul 2011, 6:35 am

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I can't believe this crap is still gong on... for 23 pages nonetheless! 8O

well people are obviously considering it and finding it interesting.