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Whale_Tuune
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28 Sep 2020, 1:39 pm

Discrimination against those with disabilities certainly exists. The issue is that "ableism" (ie prejudice against a disabled identity) is frequently compounded by occupational/social problems inherent to the disability itself.

For example, many of us with ASD experience harassment and impairment without ever making our diagnosis known to others because of the symptoms and behaviors related to ASD itself. Especially in the context of a category so broad and all encompassing as ASD, the question of where "ableism" ends and "disability" begins really, really needs to be addressed.


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28 Sep 2020, 9:02 pm

ableism is a really tricky issue in the employment sector.

The job market is highly competitive so employers are generally less likely to choose somebody with a "visible" disability if they think it might interfere with their capacity to do the job or work as part of a team and/or fit in with the workplace culture.

The truth is employers have choices most of the time and they are not required to explain to an applicant why they weren't chosen for a job.

For job applicants with autism (specifically) masking at the job interview is only the first step. They have to fit into the team and that can take some effort.

Software companies are rare in that they proactively employ programmers with autism because they know that coding is something people on the spectrum are renowned for.



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29 Sep 2020, 1:35 pm

Whale_Tuune wrote:
For example, many of us with ASD experience harassment and impairment without ever making our diagnosis known to others because of the symptoms and behaviors related to ASD itself. Especially in the context of a category so broad and all encompassing as ASD, the question of where "ableism" ends and "disability" begins really, really needs to be addressed.

It's simply because people tend to attack anyone who is different from them, in any way.



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29 Sep 2020, 1:38 pm

cyberdad wrote:
The job market is highly competitive so employers are generally less likely to choose somebody with a "visible" disability if they think it might interfere with their capacity to do the job or work as part of a team and/or fit in with the workplace culture.

Only when it comes to disability. However, if they try to do something like that based on skin color or gender, they get their butts roasted real quick.

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Software companies are rare in that they proactively employ programmers with autism because they know that coding is something people on the spectrum are renowned for.

I think it's only for PR.



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29 Sep 2020, 1:39 pm

XenoMind wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
The job market is highly competitive so employers are generally less likely to choose somebody with a "visible" disability if they think it might interfere with their capacity to do the job or work as part of a team and/or fit in with the workplace culture.

Only when it comes to disability. However, if they try to do something like that based on skin color or gender, they get their butts roasted real quick.

cyberdad wrote:
Software companies are rare in that they proactively employ programmers with autism because they know that coding is something people on the spectrum are renowned for.

I think it's only for PR.
PR or not, I suspect it's why I have my current gig, so no complaints from me.



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29 Sep 2020, 1:43 pm

Steve1963 wrote:
PR or not, I suspect it's why I have my current gig, so no complaints from me.

Well, I had couple interviews with MS before I disclosed my problems. Then I wrote to their Autism hiring team, and you know what? No replies since then.



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29 Sep 2020, 1:44 pm

XenoMind wrote:
Steve1963 wrote:
PR or not, I suspect it's why I have my current gig, so no complaints from me.

Well, I had couple interviews with MS before I disclosed my problems. Then I wrote to their Autism hiring team, and you know what? No replies since then.
Sorry to hear that. Interesting that they actually have an Autism hiring team though.



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29 Sep 2020, 1:47 pm

Steve1963 wrote:
Sorry to hear that. Interesting that they actually have an Autism hiring team though.

More interesting that it doesn't do what it's supposed to do.



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29 Sep 2020, 1:49 pm

well yeah...that sucks. wonder why that is?



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29 Sep 2020, 2:16 pm

Steve1963 wrote:
well yeah...that sucks. wonder why that is?

Probably, because I don't know where to buy a ticket to another planet.