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01 Nov 2011, 11:45 pm

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/booster ... -ever.html

I mean seriously... this is just on reason why we need vaccines. The fact that parents think a child with autism is far worse than their newborn infant getting something deadly and dying from it is so... terrible. D: I know Autism has its bad moments but if I ever had a child (and I wasn't autistic) I would rather risk my child getting autism then dying from a disease he/she can;t fight.

Now, all of these diseases are at a much higher risk because parents are against having their children vaccinated. I'm not saying all parents are ignorant but most of the parents I've seen are. My parents had me vaccinated and I'm proud of that... I mean why risk your child being killed by a disease?

I still don't understand why most parents are like this.


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02 Nov 2011, 5:01 am

The story you linked to is about a woman who failed to get her whooping cough booster. It's not about childhood vaccinations and it's not about autism. No reason is offered for her not having had her booster, but it is entirely possible that she simply forgot rather than making a conscious decision not to have it.



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02 Nov 2011, 5:16 am

Marcia wrote:
The story you linked to is about a woman who failed to get her whooping cough booster. It's not about childhood vaccinations.


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Those whooping cough numbers are stretching ever higher in California.
State health officials reported Thursday that the state has seen a threefold increase over this time last year. Check out the L.A. Now post here.
Lest you think adults vaccinated as children can't get whooping cough, lest you think they can't pass it on to their infants, lest you think those infants can't die, read Mariah Bianchi's story.
She was vaccinated as a child against whooping cough. She passed it to her infant son, Dylan. He died of the disease, also called pertussis, when he was 17 days old.


Did it need to be? I don't think so. It think it just highlights the danger of not taking vaccinations as ususual.



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02 Nov 2011, 7:35 am

Gedrene wrote:
Marcia wrote:
The story you linked to is about a woman who failed to get her whooping cough booster. It's not about childhood vaccinations.


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Those whooping cough numbers are stretching ever higher in California.
State health officials reported Thursday that the state has seen a threefold increase over this time last year. Check out the L.A. Now post here.
Lest you think adults vaccinated as children can't get whooping cough, lest you think they can't pass it on to their infants, lest you think those infants can't die, read Mariah Bianchi's story.
She was vaccinated as a child against whooping cough. She passed it to her infant son, Dylan. He died of the disease, also called pertussis, when he was 17 days old.


Did it need to be? I don't think so. It think it just highlights the danger of not taking vaccinations as ususual.


Well, it doesn't need to be, but usually the information in any link has direct relevance to the comments made in the post itself. In this case there is no direct connection, so maybe the OP has inadvertently linked to the wrong article.

Certainly the linked article is a reminder to all adults to ensure that their boosters are up-to-date, but it has nothing to do with autism or the vaccination of children.



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02 Nov 2011, 8:40 am

U could have found a better article.



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02 Nov 2011, 9:07 am

Marcia wrote:
Gedrene wrote:
Marcia wrote:
The story you linked to is about a woman who failed to get her whooping cough booster. It's not about childhood vaccinations.


source wrote:
Those whooping cough numbers are stretching ever higher in California.
State health officials reported Thursday that the state has seen a threefold increase over this time last year. Check out the L.A. Now post here.
Lest you think adults vaccinated as children can't get whooping cough, lest you think they can't pass it on to their infants, lest you think those infants can't die, read Mariah Bianchi's story.
She was vaccinated as a child against whooping cough. She passed it to her infant son, Dylan. He died of the disease, also called pertussis, when he was 17 days old.


Did it need to be? I don't think so. It think it just highlights the danger of not taking vaccinations as ususual.


Well, it doesn't need to be, but usually the information in any link has direct relevance to the comments made in the post itself. In this case there is no direct connection, so maybe the OP has inadvertently linked to the wrong article.

Certainly the linked article is a reminder to all adults to ensure that their boosters are up-to-date, but it has nothing to do with autism or the vaccination of children.

I fully agree. The suggestions being made are far too far to be related to autism and vaccines. I think it just highlights the foolishness of not taking vaccines.



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02 Nov 2011, 1:42 pm

Marcia wrote:
The story you linked to is about a woman who failed to get her whooping cough booster. It's not about childhood vaccinations and it's not about autism. No reason is offered for her not having had her booster, but it is entirely possible that she simply forgot rather than making a conscious decision not to have it.


Within the article there is a linked article that explains why she didn't get a booster.

http://www.latimes.com/news/health/la-h ... ory?page=2

She didn't get a booster because there was no booster approved for adults at the time. One was not approved for adults until 2005, the same year of her pregnancy. Even now, according to the story, the booster is just given to the adults who will be in proximity to the newborn. It isn't routinely offered to adults and it was not offered to her.

I can see how this ties back in to autism/vaccine fears that iheartmegahit is talking about. Since the pertussis vaccine became routine for children, pertussis cases dropped to the point where doctors no longer even recognized the symtoms anymore. Adults were not given booster shots because herd immunity protection came from having all the children vaccinated. But ever since the vaccine/autism scare, fewer and fewer children are being vaccinated so that herd immunity is disappearing without a comprehensive program of booster vaccination to protect adults. They say that now they do "cocooning"- giving booster shots to all who will be near a newborn- but that only covers the people who "sign up" as being near a newborn. If that baby is carried outside or an unvaccinated visitor comes over, all bets are off.


I get a flu shot every year. I get a tetanus shot when I've badly cut myself (routine for cuts needing an ER visit). At no point in my adult life have I been offered a pertussis booster (I had my child before 2005). I had my annual physical this summer and it was not offered, nor has it ever been offered. If it weren't for this article, I wouldn't even know it exists, since no doctor has mentioned it for me (although my daughter is vaccinated). I don't know what the policy is in various countries but you might not have had this booster either, depending on local policies.



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02 Nov 2011, 1:52 pm

Janissy wrote:
Marcia wrote:
The story you linked to is about a woman who failed to get her whooping cough booster. It's not about childhood vaccinations and it's not about autism. No reason is offered for her not having had her booster, but it is entirely possible that she simply forgot rather than making a conscious decision not to have it.


Within the article there is a linked article that explains why she didn't get a booster.

http://www.latimes.com/news/health/la-h ... ory?page=2

She didn't get a booster because there was no booster approved for adults at the time. One was not approved for adults until 2005, the same year of her pregnancy. Even now, according to the story, the booster is just given to the adults who will be in proximity to the newborn. It isn't routinely offered to adults and it was not offered to her.

I can see how this ties back in to autism/vaccine fears that iheartmegahit is talking about. Since the pertussis vaccine became routine for children, pertussis cases dropped to the point where doctors no longer even recognized the symtoms anymore. Adults were not given booster shots because herd immunity protection came from having all the children vaccinated. But ever since the vaccine/autism scare, fewer and fewer children are being vaccinated so that herd immunity is disappearing without a comprehensive program of booster vaccination to protect adults. They say that now they do "cocooning"- giving booster shots to all who will be near a newborn- but that only covers the people who "sign up" as being near a newborn. If that baby is carried outside or an unvaccinated visitor comes over, all bets are off.


Yeah, in the article it does state the rise in diseases that those vaccines cover. What I meant to say is that most of the time the rise is probably caused mostly by parents who don't vaccinate their children too. I mean I wouldn't want my child dying of those things. Because when those kids become adults, they won't be able to be vaccinated when they are older.

See what happens then? That's what I mean. I was vaccinated at the right times and ages. My parents could careless if I was autistic because of them or not. (Yes, I know this has proved to be not true but just saying) I mean I still don't get why vaccines are less worse to get than Autism is. Autism is lifelong... but it never KILLS your child like whooping cough or smallpox can, you know?

The bottom line is that, these diseases vaccinations are supposed to protect are rising because children become adults and then adults can't get those vaccinations... so if they have kids, even if they do get them vaccinated, the chances of them protecting the child will be really low.

I don't care if my child gets autism because of the vaccines... and not because I have it too but because I don't think its worth keeping a child unvaccinated.

There are a lot of ignorant parents out there. Parents who think Autism is far worse than a child becoming unprotected and unvaccinated.


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