should hate speech be taken seriously in all cases?
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i saw an article on encyclopedia dramatica saying that autistic people are ret*d selfish people and deserve to die. http://encyclopediadramatica.ch/Autism this site also made personal attacks against a user of this forum for having AS. the people who posted this may have thought it was funny or may have been trolling. the big question is do we take this seriously, and if so what do we do about it.
i am on the fence about this issue and may choose to do whatever the majority thinks.
Encyclopedia Dramatica was created by people who knew that if they provided a cesspool at a low elevation, all of the human waste would flow downslope to it, thus relieving those of us on higher elevations of their noxious opinions.
Don't go there, and they won't bother you.
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No, the problem with letting cesspools exist is that they eventually pollute the environment in some way. To further stretch this metaphor apparently they are thinking of using plasma burners in order to create energy out of trash. Maybe we should do the same with ED. We could give the money away to charity, just to piss 'em off further.
It is a difficult subject.
Really, if you pay attention to the haters you are giving them what they want.
The best revenge is a life well lived.
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Really, if you pay attention to the haters you are giving them what they want.
The best revenge is a life well lived.
Not really. There's the chance of actually punishing someone for doing something wrong. In fact you are expecting people to not listen to something for what it is. The basic fact is that all justice is redress, and making someone pay for doing terrible things, that is indeed a thing that makes your life feel so much fuller, not only by easing your world, but by improving the fabric of society.
The owners of the website are protected by legal disclaimers on the site, and states it is intended for satire and parody only. If one feels like their legal rights in regard to defamation, have been abused, they could pursue a civil lawsuit, IP addresses are recorded and will be released to law enforcement on request, but I doubt it would be worth the cost of a civil suit, because it is fairly clear the whole site is being used for the benefit of the seedier side of internet traffic, as Fnord alluded to in his post. The internet has it's cesspools of interest.
Unfortunately there are worse offenses than this against humanity that exist because of freedom of speech on the internet. That's the price we pay for freedom.
Unfortunately there are worse offenses than this against humanity that exist because of freedom of speech on the internet. That's the price we pay for freedom.
That is why it seems more NTs avoid Aspies and Autistic people now, because sites like this tend to be bait for anti-naziautism and for Anonymous to take order that NTs are the superiour race of this planet, not the Autism Spectrum.
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Oh look! Those people over in that house are saying bad things! I know this because I went inside and listened to them! Should I be concerned?
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The mere fact that science may not yet adequately explain an object, event, or experience does not mean the immediate explanation should automatically default to a conspiratorial, extraterrestrial, paranormal, or supernatural cause.
Unfortunately there are worse offenses than this against humanity that exist because of freedom of speech on the internet. That's the price we pay for freedom.
That is why it seems more NTs avoid Aspies and Autistic people now, because sites like this tend to be bait for anti-naziautism and for Anonymous to take order that NTs are the superiour race of this planet, not the Autism Spectrum.
Basic human nature hasn't changed that much since the development of the internet. Like Fnord said in his previous post, we now have an open window into what people say behind our backs, in part due to the perceived anonymity of the internet
In that regard, the internet is not necessarily the best place to be, for anyone that is easily disturbed by what others say from the perceived safety of their anonymity.
On the other hand, the internet isn't as anonymous, for potential prosecution, and other retaliatory behavior, when the general record to trace individuals and IP addresses are potentially available for the distant future as we know it. People that do that kind of thing are playing with fire; there is the potential it will catch up with them, one way or another in the long run.
I don't think ED significantly impacts the real world; most people that would make comments like that on that type of site, would engage in the same type of covert behavior in the real world. It's the seedier part of human nature that exists everywhere.
The world is a competitive place and there is a pecking order that everyone is subject to. Fortunately we live in a relatively egalitarian society, in the US.
Being autistic beyond the disabling aspects may be an easier life for some, than being part of fifty percent of other country's populations; being a woman in other countries, where they are considered no more valuable than cattle, mutilated and tortured, for innocent offenses.
It can be a nasty part of human nature, that is nastier some places than others. When it comes down to it we are primates with clothes on, some born into more fortune than others.
Actually they're just trolling and anticipating serious responses like yours for lulz. I admit, I frequently read ED like the morning newspaper for laughs.
I'm surprised WrongPlanet hasn't gotten it's own article on ED yet though.
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Actually they're just trolling and anticipating serious responses like yours for lulz. I admit, I frequently read ED like the morning newspaper for laughs.
I'm surprised WrongPlanet hasn't gotten it's own article on ED yet though.
I doubt that quite a few people on ED and 4chan actually think we should be treated with any sort of equality or respect. They're all comparing us to Chris-chan and making mongoloid jokes. Try as one might to hide the whole of 4chan's humour under some shroud of parody, but what they are doing is intended to cause anger or to hurt.
They even have a page on ED, troll's remorse, and the only advice the page gives to avoid feeling upset about trolling is by using denial, and the implication is that why they don't show remorse more is ignorance, a lack of empathy, etc. They're just living in a bubble of conceit and they have known it for a long time. Screw what they say. What matters is what they do. Because it's still discrimination, hate, misery, even if it wasn't intended, and trolls know it.
Any attempt to excuse it because 'it's trolling' is basically using loaded dice. In fact saying that it's trolling is all the evidence you need in reality.
What trolls are banking on is thinking that just because they aren't thinking ill of their trolling, it's funny when others get angry/upset at it. It's based on perceiving a different response as absurd, and depends on the troll using doublethink or being a sociopath. That is the basis.
Further enjoyment is often gleaned, ironically, from getting away with things that they usually wouldn't expect to get away with. This is again another logical fallacy. Often they don't avoid punishment, but by banishing any sense of morality from their actions whatever trolling they do is seen as getting away with it, fooling their own psyche and getting a one-up on anyone they use it against.
They are hairless ground apes, half have an IQ below 100.
They are not Nobel prize material.
Lacking an intelligent response to the world, as I think we all do, they at least do something, wrong, dumb, and that puts them ahead of most.
In the two ways of looking at most things, they are going for the Bevis and Butthead vote.
On the other Nobel Path, there are about 10,000 disagreements.
They summed up thier view in a page, and just the threads on Wrong Planet would reach several times around the world.
I think they are doing well, discovering that the Internet is more than porn, the twenty-seven classes of porn, and have discovered life outside of porn.
I have read the works of leading researchers that should have a parody label, regretfully they are taken seriously, at least by their peers.
I have to vote for Evolution, the way things are going, the use of language will soon be a thing of the past, and they can go back to crude drawings on walls.
I hope no other action will be taken for I have said much worse about Congress, with no parody or humor intended.
If you take a historic look at early America, what was the rule in England, The Constitution is pure hate speech. One of the first was we do not need the King's Permission, Copy Right, to publish our views. It also dethroned the Church, Nobility, and chose to elect our own despots.
I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it, Ape Boy.
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DON'T CLICK THE BANNER READING "OFFENDED BY ASPERGERS" ON THAT PAGE.
PLEASE.
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Ehh, gotta consider the source. When its as unimportant as this lousy site, it doesn't matter. They fling s**t at anyone. Now if if stuff pops up on Wikipedia, or if someone reputable on the news said something disparaging, we should speak up.
Remember, the goal is to never get mocked. Everyone gets mocked. The goal is to make sure the mocking isn't how people actually think.
