What to Look for in a Bike/Where to Buy One

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26 Feb 2012, 8:56 am

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hey Blue_and_Orange

First of all ride safe, glass's aren't just for crashs. they prevent your eyes from drying out or excessive tearing. Also they prevent road grit that gets blown around from cars from temporarly blinding you, thats terrible in traffic.

I would omit the pedal straps from your list as they prevent you from putting a foot down immediatly.

now to the bike and accesories,
check out Ebay I built my competion downhill dual suspension bike completly from the mail.

and did the complete electric conversion on a cheaper bike also

they sell mirrors that velcro on the handgrips and they do come in very handy in traffic as opposed to turning around.

For glass's at night try Home Depot and check out their saftey glass's. they come in clear yellow tint and tinted, they have quite a selection !


I didn't even realize the other benefits of shields, thank you so much! I also hope 1000Knives saw your post as well.

As for the straps, I assumed my bike would have breaks, and I'm paranoid about my foot flying off the pedal when it shouldn't. Maybe I'll have one foot in a pedal, one foot not.

I do not want to buy anything online just because it may get lost in the mail, or I may not be able to get a refund if I need to.



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26 Feb 2012, 8:58 am

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i like my giant suede gx a lot. but i had to replace the transmission with a 5-speed, as the standard 3-speed was geared too low and at full tilt would barely get me to 10 miles per hour on level ground. in addition, i got a taller rear wheel gear that would get me up to 25 miles per hour but still let me climb big hills without killing my legs. the gx suede has a wide comfycushy bigassed american seat for the typical bigassed american booty, and a suspension seat post to take the jolt out of bumps and ridges and such, same for the front fork suspension. most american roads are too rough to be riding a non-suspended bike over without causing eventual kidney and spinal damage. another benefit of the suede gx is that it has a nice leisurely "crank forward" upright riding position with legs several inches forward of the seat post axis and arms fairly well back, so there is no pressure on the palms/wrists/elbows/shoulders. they sell two sizes of this bike, a standard and a long [for people taller than 6']. the tires have that green slime built-in to 'em so as to help to guard against typical sharp road hazards such as sharp rocks, glass etc. the only other change i'd make to this bike, is to make yet a longer frame, as i have long legs. i would recommend this bike to any non-hard-core athlete who wants a reliably strenuous yet gentler workout.


Thank you thank you thank you so much! I mean it, I cannot thank you enough! I'll ask the bike shops if they have a bike like this.



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26 Feb 2012, 9:01 am

auntblabby wrote:
something about my giant suede gx i forgot to talk about- it has an all-internal hub [the thingie on the rear wheel which contains all the final gears] - it was my experience, that derailleurs are a giant PITA, in that road debris is always bouncing up into the works, i can't count the number of times the chain was stripped off the gears due to rocks. plus it takes somebody with the skills of a bicycle mechanic to keep the things properly calibrated, i lacked those skills so i was always pedalling around between gears with all the resultant clunking, no matter how i tried to fudge the shift levers. no, an internal hub like the SRAM i use, is the best thing for non-techie bike rides like me. 5 well-chosen gear ratios are enough to get me up and down most small to medium hills. another good thing about the suede gx is that it is light enough to lift with one finger. it is no problem shuttling it into and out of the back of my honda CRV for periodic trips to the bike shop in the next county. it didn't cost much more than a typical department store bike [$330] but it is so much lighter.


Thank you thank you thank you! Although the shop that e-mailed me back is a lot more expensive than that, I'll ask about these features too! They told me a basic bike that can be used on roads and gravel trails is around four hundred dollars- one with all these features is probably twice that!



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26 Feb 2012, 6:35 pm

i'd say a full face helmet could be far more dangerous. A large part of safety on a bike is awareness, your hearing and vision are both considerably compromised by most full face helmets. i personally would never wear one for those reasons. my head would overheat very quickly too. i think there is reason no one wears them unless mountain biking where there is no traffic.

i would say that footstraps are only a good idea if you are a confident rider.

cars are safer but bikes would be safer if it were not for the risk of getting hit by a car! just falling off a bike is very unlikely to kill you unless you hit your head whilst not wearing a helmet



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26 Feb 2012, 8:00 pm

Falling (or flying) off of my bike might not kill me, but I'd rather not have to deal with severe scrapes and bruises for two weeks, especially if all I have to do is put on some pads. If I have school stuff, a week's worth of food, or anything else in the basket, I risk losing or damaging it- in addition to damaging myself! As for full face helmets compromising my safety, I plan to have two or three mirrors, reflective tape, and generally take every safety precaution possible. The main reason I'm even getting a full-face helmet is I'm prone to getting things in my eyes when outside- which is extremely dangerous while on a bike. The main reason I'm considering foot straps is so my foot doesn't randomly accidentally slip off the pedal, which has happened to me.



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26 Feb 2012, 8:14 pm

pads make sense. I really think you should consider why no other cyclists use full face on the road.

adequate pedals and footwear should mean your feet always grip the pedals even when wet. it is important too have good contact with the pedal regardless of straps. that is not a reason in itself not to use straps but by making your safety systems simpler you have less chance of mechanical failure. i guess that is an opinion.

i don't know the terrain you will be riding but you could do as 1000knives says and use a scarf and glasses/ even goggles but then maybe you compromise your vision.



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26 Feb 2012, 8:23 pm

Goggles are a good idea. Not only that, but they save me money. Of course I'm getting a helmet, just now it doesn't have to be an expensive one.



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26 Feb 2012, 8:27 pm

I'm willing to bet money that after buying this all that safety stuff, you'll stop wearing 90% of it within your first couple weeks of riding. And yeah, a full face would really prevent you from hearing and seeing stuff you need to hear or see.

Want some more statistics. Riding a bike per hour is actually safer than living. Technically.

http://www.kenkifer.com/bikepages/health/risks.htm



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26 Feb 2012, 8:38 pm

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I'm willing to bet money that after buying this all that safety stuff, you'll stop wearing 90% of it within your first couple weeks of riding. And yeah, a full face would really prevent you from hearing and seeing stuff you need to hear or see.

Want some more statistics. Riding a bike per hour is actually safer than living. Technically.

http://www.kenkifer.com/bikepages/health/risks.htm


lmao You flat out said the reason you don't take safety precautions is you want to be "stylish", and someone called you a faggotfor having an "old" bike. I would much rather get made fun of than injured. You are the other way around, therefore this conversation will not go anywhere. In the event that I learn certain kinds of protection are better for me than others (example: goggles instead of full face helmet), than I will switch, but I will not stop wearing "90%" of my safety stuff. So a couple or so weeks after I get my bike, I will be waiting for the money you are betting. =D=D=D=D=D=D=D=D=D



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26 Feb 2012, 8:40 pm

1000Knives wrote:
I'm willing to bet money that after buying this all that safety stuff, you'll stop wearing 90% of it within your first couple weeks of riding. And yeah, a full face would really prevent you from hearing and seeing stuff you need to hear or see.

Want some more statistics. Riding a bike per hour is actually safer than living. Technically.

http://www.kenkifer.com/bikepages/health/risks.htm


P.S. Funny you claim I'll be wasting money after you told me to buy a bunch of tools I didn't even need. That, and you're willing to bet money on me, and spend money on being "stylish".



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26 Feb 2012, 8:47 pm

Blue_and_Orange wrote:
1000Knives wrote:
I'm willing to bet money that after buying this all that safety stuff, you'll stop wearing 90% of it within your first couple weeks of riding. And yeah, a full face would really prevent you from hearing and seeing stuff you need to hear or see.

Want some more statistics. Riding a bike per hour is actually safer than living. Technically.

http://www.kenkifer.com/bikepages/health/risks.htm


P.S. Funny you claim I'll be wasting money after you told me to buy a bunch of tools I didn't even need. That, and you're willing to bet money on me, and spend money on being "stylish".


Sure, as I own no scarves at all, and tools will never be useful for anything ever. I think we have two entirely different worldviews, but yeah, have fun with your bike, regardless.



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26 Feb 2012, 8:54 pm

lmao Right, because scarves are the only way to be "stylish", and you never said in your comments that you try to be stylish. You also like to put words in my mouth, therefore after this comment I will probably be done with this conversation. I never said tools weren't useful- I said they weren't very useful for someone like me, whereas safety gear on a bike would be useful to someone like me, since I am accident prone on bikes as is. One more thing. I looked at your profile, and it says you are 21- when are you going to start acting your age? I'm 20 and have more sense than you. Telling me to "say my prayers" and even "throw caution to the wind" just because someone might laugh at me for wearing safety pads? Really? I had that mentality in elementary school, but at some point I grew out of it.



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26 Feb 2012, 8:57 pm

P.S. I will have tons of fun waiting for the money you're betting on me- or were you lying about that, just like you lied about me saying tools are never useful?



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26 Feb 2012, 8:57 pm

I bought mine here.

http://www.nycewheels.com/

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26 Feb 2012, 9:46 pm

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P.S. I will have tons of fun waiting for the money you're betting on me- or were you lying about that, just like you lied about me saying tools are never useful?


Well, there's such a thing as figures of speech, which maybe you've not figured out, but I'm all for betting actual money. I never said huge amounts of money, but if you wanna do $5, with one month between you getting the bike and pads, for the time frame, PM me for my paypal. Then again, that'd be a one sided bet, which is why it's a figure of speech, as I can't verify in any way whether you are or are not wearing your pads. But, on your honor, I guess, if you wanna bet $5, I'm up for it.

Other than that, uhm....yeah... I'm done here, and don't find your comments toward me worth my time to refute or defend. You're free to do as you wish. Good luck with your bike regardless.



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26 Feb 2012, 9:55 pm

lol I haven't figured it out? You haven't addressed half of the things in my last few comments, nor do you know how to keep words out of peoples' mouths (another figure of speech lol). How about I take pictures of my pads and bike when I get them, and pictures a month later? Granted you said two weeks, but you're also mentally too young to argue affectively, the real reason my arguments are "not worth your time". lmao It may be a while before I get my bike as I have to decide where to get it and all my other stuff, but I promise I will let you know when I do.