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17 Jan 2014, 4:57 pm

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My parents aren't into it, heck my dad feeds the deer and he couldn't imagine shooting Bamby. Part of me wants to because it bothers me on some levels that I eat burgers, chicken sandwiches, bacon, etc. but I've never done the dirty work myself.

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Depends what sort of hunting you mean. I think it means something quite different here and I think it is disgusting. have protested a few times.

Probably best to stay vegan/vegetarian in that case, otherwise it's just passing the moral repehension on to the blue collar guy or gal who slaughters the steer for your steak, the chicken for your sandwich, or the ham for your Christmas or New Years celebration.


agreed as unbelievable as it may sound a real experienced hunter I find less offensive than a supermarket eater :P


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17 Jan 2014, 5:05 pm

Out in rural Australia, hunting isn't a past time, it's a necessity to keep crops and livestock safe from introduced pests.

I don't hunt myself, but lots of people out on the Darling Downs go out hunting feral pigs and rabbits to try and keep the numbers down. It also helps the natives by getting rid of their competition and predators (yes, feral pigs will go for young kangaroos and wallabies).


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17 Jan 2014, 5:17 pm

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Out in rural Australia, hunting isn't a past time, it's a necessity to keep crops and livestock safe from introduced pests.

I don't hunt myself, but lots of people out on the Darling Downs go out hunting feral pigs and rabbits to try and keep the numbers down. It also helps the natives by getting rid of their competition and predators (yes, feral pigs will go for young kangaroos and wallabies).



and the other ferals like cows or sheep? their a introduced species to, guess it's not considered a pest cause theirs money to be made?


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17 Jan 2014, 6:36 pm

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Do you support canned hunting ? I presume you all do as does the NRA.


This is the first time I have ever heard of it. I wouldn't even classify it as hunting.


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17 Jan 2014, 6:40 pm

Sherlock03 wrote:
techstepgenr8tion wrote:
My parents aren't into it, heck my dad feeds the deer and he couldn't imagine shooting Bamby. Part of me wants to because it bothers me on some levels that I eat burgers, chicken sandwiches, bacon, etc. but I've never done the dirty work myself.

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Depends what sort of hunting you mean. I think it means something quite different here and I think it is disgusting. have protested a few times.

Probably best to stay vegan/vegetarian in that case, otherwise it's just passing the moral repehension on to the blue collar guy or gal who slaughters the steer for your steak, the chicken for your sandwich, or the ham for your Christmas or New Years celebration.


It probably would be a good idea for everyone who eats meat to personally kill and process at least one animal. I grew up around it , so it doesn't bother me but a city boy/girl who orders a big mac might view the experience as a real eye opener. Maybe it would even help with obesity.


I have been living in rural Virginia, US for over 10 years (what's up, Sherlock?), in a place where people still hunt, fish, grow their own food, chop wood. I don't know how to do any of those things, really, but when my Heating/Air unit goes out in a snowstorm, they are warm and cozy, cooking venison stew on the woodstove. It makes me sad that these basic skills are being lost on urban folk and my brother and I have been talking about learning to shoot.


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17 Jan 2014, 6:42 pm

Sherlock03 wrote:
aussiebloke wrote:
Do you support canned hunting ? I presume you all do as does the NRA.


This is the first time I have ever heard of it. I wouldn't even classify it as hunting.




than why would the nra approve of it ? I keep reading about the thrill of the chase, where is the thrill here ?it 's akin to slaves fighting hungry lions in the day, where is the sport in it? it's sadism . no better than those crush videos , though crushers are in lesser numbers than hunters so it goes on sadly .
I have no idea how any one can defend this.


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17 Jan 2014, 7:02 pm

I enjoy the shooting sports. As I boy I went hunting several times, but was more into the shooting part of it than the early cold hours of waiting around.

I have been watching Discovery channel shows about living in the Alaska wilderness, and can wax romantic about summer hunting so that there is food to eat during the long winter. But living in the city, I can also appreciate the convenience of the local butcher shop.

I just wish that for a few years they would declare open season on the wild hogs here in the southern U.S., and on the pythons in the Everglades. Sometimes it seems we are near getting an overrun imbalance like happens in Australia and some other places.


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17 Jan 2014, 7:37 pm

Marky9, I understand - the deer here are at a pest status, too, which is the only reason I will allow for it. :) I also detest the idea of hunting for sport.


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17 Jan 2014, 8:50 pm

EmeraldGreen wrote:
I have been living in rural Virginia, US for over 10 years (what's up, Sherlock?), in a place where people still hunt, fish, grow their own food, chop wood. I don't know how to do any of those things, really, but when my Heating/Air unit goes out in a snowstorm, they are warm and cozy, cooking venison stew on the woodstove. It makes me sad that these basic skills are being lost on urban folk and my brother and I have been talking about learning to shoot.

It's a beautiful state. I think there is a certain sense of reward from learning self sufficient skills.



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than why would the nra approve of it ? I keep reading about the thrill of the chase, where is the thrill here ?it 's akin to slaves fighting hungry lions in the day, where is the sport in it? it's sadism . no better than those crush videos , though crushers are in lesser numbers than hunters so it goes on sadly .
I have no idea how any one can defend this.
I wouldn't know. You could try asking them. The general hunting mantra, espoused by most hunters, is to never be cruel or disrespectful. In the rare case someone breaks this rule they usually get smacked across the head and told to get the he!! out of here. I hunt with the one shot mantra ( although I carry more than one cartridge) , which means that you only take a shot that is ethical and will kill the animal with the least amount of pain. There is no place in hunting for cruel or disrespectful behavior. I use an SMLE, which I know is quite popular down under.


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17 Jan 2014, 9:02 pm

Sherlock03 wrote:
I think there is a certain sense of reward from learning self sufficient skills.


Well, there may be something primordial to that!


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17 Jan 2014, 9:45 pm

aussiebloke wrote:
Kezzstar wrote:
Out in rural Australia, hunting isn't a past time, it's a necessity to keep crops and livestock safe from introduced pests.

I don't hunt myself, but lots of people out on the Darling Downs go out hunting feral pigs and rabbits to try and keep the numbers down. It also helps the natives by getting rid of their competition and predators (yes, feral pigs will go for young kangaroos and wallabies).



and the other ferals like cows or sheep? their a introduced species to, guess it's not considered a pest cause theirs money to be made?


If it's feral, it gets shot. Not many feral cows or sheep though, it's mainly pigs for some strange reason.

Not that I'm a farmer (in fact I got out of the country ASAP and now live the cushy life in the city) but you'd hear all the time how feral animals would get into crops and livestock, usually with a lot of swearing involved.


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18 Jan 2014, 2:51 am

^^^

my point was their introduced .

And regarding the canned "hunting" we should get Mike Tyson on to them and we can see how tough they really are :wink:
Most people are ignorant to the fact he adores pigeons, most only see him as the alleged rapist. :P


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18 Jan 2014, 9:40 am

Aussiebloke, I hadn't heard about canned hunting per se and it is very disturbing.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canned_hunt
http://www.peta.org/issues/animals-in-e ... d-hunting/.
Also I admit to being a reluctant Mike Tyson supporter after watching Spike Lee's movie"Undisputed Truth" - maybe he would be able to gain an audience about what it means to fight fair with the type of moral derelicts who pay for this???? Interesting idea. I wish we could get Mike, Jane Fonda, Jennifer Anniston, Bradd Pitt, Angelina Jolie, Dolly Parton.....


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18 Jan 2014, 5:00 pm

I do recall the internet robot canned hunt., what next drop air drones remotely over Iraqi villages ?


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20 Jan 2014, 6:40 am

aussiebloke wrote:
^^^

my point was their introduced .

And regarding the canned "hunting" we should get Mike Tyson on to them and we can see how tough they really are :wink:
Most people are ignorant to the fact he adores pigeons, most only see him as the alleged rapist. :P


Bring Mike Tyson out there to yell at a bunch of armed rednecks while they are hunting and he's gonna get shot. I don't agree with them shooting him, but that's what would happen.

I've also never heard of anybody hunting pigeons. It's mainly deer, boar, turkey, duck and coon around here. I don't think they eat the coons though, they just keep the tails. They are pests so it's sort of a thing to go out in the middle of the night with specially trained dogs and shoot them out of trees.

I bet though, if you were hungry enough and there was no vegetation around that was edible, you'd hunt.


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20 Jan 2014, 6:54 am

^^^^

of cause I would those rednecks don't look like their starving to me do they now , those vaginas (no offense to vaginas :wink: ) need to hide behind their guns. Perhaps Mike can get their licence plate and meet these guys down a dark alley.


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