Obese nutritionists

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That's kind of interesting. Apparently the doc that wrote that blog, also wrote a book on going gluten-free.
http://www.losethewheatlosetheweight.co ... ode=205017

I agree with you, that judging on a superficial basis is not morally the right way, and I certainly would never suggest that anyone misrepresent themselves in social or private situations. And to be clear, I agree that it would be dishonest for a business person to misrepresent themselves (i.e. if they're a careless, sloppy mechanic, then to show up in a clean, neat truck in perfect order, would be deceptive). With the nutritionist I think it's more about "practice what you preach". So if I am to assume that the nutritionist is good at his/her profession, then he/she should be practicing the very techniques that he/she is going to use for me.... UNLESS there is something as I mentioned, which is a physical reason that's not the case.

Honestly, I wouldn't even be participating in this thread about nutritionists, if I hadn't worked on myself, and consulted nutritionists of all shapes & sizes, for many years to have the health and appearance I have. That's because I wouldn't consider myself experienced or qualified to have any opinions on something that I hadn't personally succeeded with.

Idealism is beautiful, but usually can't work. Sadly that's a fact of history, and it applies here. Would anyone go in a hair salon where the lady at the reception desk has a hair doo that looks like the Wicked Witch of the West, and hasn't been shampooed in a few decades? That receptionist might be of the finest character in the world, and be the kindest person and most giving, and might be the most talented hair stylist ever graduated from the best academy... But if they don't show it on themselves, what is the stranger to think?

Charles

You're assuming they're not able to make a living - at least that's what I read between the lines of what you're saying. If they are employed as nutritionists, I would assume they are. I have no idea where the OP has seen these "obese" nutritionists, mind you. But there is the more recent post linking to an article about overweight hospital workers.

Oh please, that's patronizing nonsense that excuses all kinds of things. So we shouldn't try to be better and nonjudging because it's hopeless? Give me a break. I'm fine with my idealism, and I will continue to work at not making snap judgments. Have been living that way for a long time, and I don't feel in any way crippled by it. I'm very happy to be idealistic in fact, and would invite others to try it for a change. It beats chronic cynicism any day of the week.

Let's broaden the category from nutritionists to medical workers. (Not including doctors.) The link between stress and being overweight has been known of since the 70s at least, and yet whenever someone wants to criticize the overweight they talk about will power or nutrition, or both. Why are hospital workers overweight? My guess is that it's because they have stressful work. They work long hours - some of them 12 hour shifts - and they are around people who are injured or ill all the time - not the most relaxing thing to do.

I don't think public relations is much of a priority in that line of work. There's a shortage of nurses, at least where I live all my life the want ads have been full of ads calling for nurses, and I've known people who wanted to be nurses and couldn't get into or through nursing school. It's not an easy line of work, coming or going. But hey, let's demand that they look good while they're at it. Good grief.

Both views (yours & mine) are valid to debate. But my experience is that realism works in business, and idealism does not. In other aspects of life, the case can be different.

In business, it can be proven in many ways: Here's one.. Simply set up two lemonade stands a few yards apart, and have one all neat & tidy (stand "A"), with a well-groomed, well-dressed attractive person, who may be a scoundrel in character, serving the lemonade... And the other; (stand "B"), a worn-looking table with a bent leg, with someone in ill-fitting clothes with a couple of stains, and sloppy hair, but perhaps is an Eagle Scout who is selling the lemonade to fund surgery for a baby someplace. Both will sell the exact same lemonade made by a third person, so the lemonade is identical in every way. Stand A will be able to charge significantly more for their lemonade, than stand B, and very few people will go to stand B at all. Why? Because the appearance of stand A is that you are getting clean, good-tasting lemonade, served by someone who looks like they would serve good-tasting lemonade in clean glasses. Stand B, looks like you might get a dirty glass, or maybe carelessly-brewed lemonade, based on the look of things.

Charles

When did the discussion become about business? Sorry, but without ideals, business is empty and meaningless. Why must someone reveal their entire medical or psychological history to justify themselves, for the sake of business? Business should support ideals, not the other way around.

Life is not made of if. it's made of is.

We must adapt to our world instead of complaining about it, unless you can change it of course.

Well the is is that apparently some nutritionists are overweight. Whether anyone else likes it or not. I don't have a problem with it. As I said in my first post on this thread, nobody's perfect.

Sure, some nutritionists are overweight. I don't hate them. But if I had nothing else at hand, I'd choose a non-overweight (and non-anorexic) nutritionist over an overweight one, and I'm in mu right to do so. And that's why overweight nutritionist can do good explaining why they are that way, maybe an "about me" section in their website saying something like this



I'd hire that nutritionist over anyone with a pretty body who has been always that way.

Of course that's your right.

They would need to reveal that information if their business (i.e. a dietician or trainer) is health-related, and their outward appearance does not support their goals for you, the customer.

Charles

Do you mean her?

http://www.fatnutritionist.com/

She's no hypocrite. She's anti-dieting, never claims to help people lose weight.

Oh, I like her. Thanks for the link.

I especially like what she says about body size being morally neutral. So true.

She focuses on CBT essentially, her focus is almost completely on the psychological, rather than actual advice on what to eat or what not to eat.

I think it's fair for her to focus on the psychological, since that is really the part that the majority who end up with disordered eating have trouble with. There is plenty of information on the nutritional and scientific side of things if you go looking for it, but we have much less information on the psychological side which is what really affects how and what people eat in the first place.

http://www.fatnutritionist.com/index.php/about/

So she did have to talk about herself.

AAnd got me hooked. I've spent at least an hour reading that blog

Read lesson 2. Print it out. Stick it on your wall. Re-read it every time you skip a meal!

From her site:

For me it's always been the former...