Changing Diets..........
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My experience has been pretty good, so far. Monday, I did get a bit shaky between meals and I have noticed a general reduction in energy, but my mood is much better and I "feel" like I'm losing a bit of weight....
So, now it’s been a full week. I’m not getting shaky between meals at all, but I do still feel as if I have a bit of lead in my boots…
For breakfast I’ve been eating blueberries with just a bit of plain yogurt. This is by far, my highest carb meal of the day. I’d estimate I’m getting about 30-40 grams worth.
Lunch and Dinner have typically been:
Tuna salad (tuna, eggs, mayo, mustard) with a fresh tomato and lettuce on the side
Beef pot roast with veggies*
Cheese omelets with veggies*
Fried/grilled pork chops with veggies*
Snacks have been cheese slices mostly, but I did buy a bag of pork rinds earlier in the week (man, were they good!).
I’ve had water with all meals and lots of water in between meals. The only other beverages I’ve had are coffee (2 cups in the morning) and the occasional cup of black tea (hot).
That’s pretty much been my diet.
*broccoli, cauliflower, zucchini, squash, carrots. I’m guessing the veggies are adding another 20 grams of carbs/meal.
The only cheating I’ve done at all was today. I did not eat breakfast, but when I had lunch (grilled pork chops), I did have 2 beers (IPAs from a local brewer. Man, were they good too!).
I have not attempted to restrict my food intake at all.
Tonight, when I weighed in, the scale indicated that I lost 4lbs—not bad for a week of pork chops and pot roast!! !
I think I’m going to keep the diet as it is for now. Monday I’ll start my usual workout again (I did not work out this week). I do some very intense cardio when I exercise. It will be interesting to see if I have the endurance to do my normal routine on this diet…. I have my doubts.
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[quote="ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo"]But there is science that backs up my statement. One study in particular, the China Study, backs up what I say one hundred percent. A population with a cholesterol level below 150 mg/dL daily had a zero risk for heart disease while populations with levels higher had increased risks.
^Evidence.
Diets with fats produce more of the bad cholesterol than diets without.
^Assumption.
All fats are the same? No other factors could be causing an increase in bad cholesterol?
If you want your level to stay 150 or less, you have to cut fat out of your diet. Then your risk will be zero.
^You don't say what percentage of fat this population with a cholesterol level below 150 mg is eating. Are they really eating no fat?
Quoting Gary Taubes WWGF- Among the non-Westernized populations that have been well studied, quite a few that were exclusively meat eaters, or meat and fish eaters- the Inuits are and example, as are the Maasai- suffered little of no cancer (or heart disease, diabetes, or obesity). This suggests that meat eating is not a cause of these diseases.
from page 170
He is talking about meat - not fat in this case, but elsewhere he mentioned that they perfer the fatty cuts of meat.
In China they eat pork bellies, various organ meats, etc. Pork belly is bacon before it's cured. Very high fat content meat. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pork_belly
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Yeah, I no longer believe a calorie is a calorie, either. I've yet to develop any nutritional deficiencies over the years. I suspect, as with calories (and carbs) my body is just extremely efficient at storing. It's just hard to lose weight when you eat so few carbs to begin with. As I've said repeatedly, the minute the calories go up, so does my weight.
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[quote="ValentineWigginGood luck with the diet- I've been borderline PCOS for a number of years (no insulin resistance yet, but multiple ovarian cysts/menstruation cessation and sky high testosterone)
(off-topic: there was a long-running thread in the women's section for a while about the [of course anecdotal] seeming prevalence of hormonal disorders among women on the spectrum, and several AS men chimed in about their female relatives having them- lends itself well to the theories involving higher exposure to testosterone in the womb, and "Extreme Male Brain" theory, I think, and might be an interesting correlation to investigate in future years. Will try to find the thread in a moment...)
and am currently trying the low-carb thing, on advice from some people here, to maintain some weight loss after a lifetime of being obese. (I'm up to around 500 calories a day, and try to keep carbs below 10g), cutting out refined sugars and wheat (I already eat so few of these, it won't be much change, but still).
Added GC, BC to my Amazon wishlist, thanks for the mention!
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I am probably boderline on PCOS, but I don't want it to get worse. I did find a thread like you mention in general autism discussion, but actually I have noticed threads on the topic in the past.
I have a family history of hormonal disorders, multiple miscarrages from most of the women on my mothers side of the family, my sister (34) is going through menopause.
I've had very erratic, light periods, and started fairly late.
Also I do have a low 2nd to 4th digit ratio, and my mother was stressed when she was pregnant with me, indicative of high fetal testosterone.
I'm reading The Finger Ratio by John Manning- " it may be that finger ratio is correlated with the structure of the androgen receper". He goes on to say more research needs to be done on how the finger ratio forms, but I agree interesting correlation.
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Welcome to the thread. I'm glad you're finding it interesting.
I'm planning to post "progress reports" about once a week or so, please, feel free to do so here as well! I would be extremely interested to know how you're dealing with the diet. I'm sure others would be interested too.
I've been eating low carb since Friday--not as low as the Atkins induction phase (20 grams or less) but pretty low (between 50-70 grams), with no sugar or flour.
My experience has been pretty good, so far. Monday, I did get a bit shaky between meals and I have noticed a general reduction in energy, but my mood is much better and I "feel" like I'm losing a bit of weight....
Thanks for the welcome. I have noticed an improvement in mood, but I'm struggling with how to concretely explain what is better. It's that I don't get stuck, when I get frustrated, I can get unfrustrated (word?).
I had noticed before this that sugar affects my mood rather horribly- both extremes really hign, really low- so I feel better, much more even.
Energy has been good, I was expecting that I might have few days of feeling ill, having fasted, done 'cleanses' (basically I have this thing where I will put my body out there for the sake of an experiment).
You know what I love about this diet? That it encourages salt intake, because I love salt. Never been much of a sweets person actually- and don't miss it at all now.
At this point I don't know how many carbs I'm getting- I may not be eating enough meat/ protein and to many vegetables. But 1) I like vegetables and 2) I want to avoid constipation.
Actually I might not be eating enough at all, because I'm not used to eating much.
I'll get around to posting my actual daily menu sometime.
Sure, there's also some recent research that suggests it is not cholesterol that causes clogged arteries but the SHAPE of the LDL carrier which is adversely affected by high levels of carbs in the diet...
Anyway, I'd say the science is far from settled and no one is justified in making absolute statements on this subject....
There are populations of South Americans who live entirely on Sweet Potatoes and have no heart disease. While in the US, where many people eat hamburgers every day, ice cream, cheese cake, bacon and eggs, canola and olive oil, guacamole, there's an elevated risk of heart disease.
Sure, there's also some recent research that suggests it is not cholesterol that causes clogged arteries but the SHAPE of the LDL carrier which is adversely affected by high levels of carbs in the diet...
Anyway, I'd say the science is far from settled and no one is justified in making absolute statements on this subject....
There are populations of South Americans who live entirely on Sweet Potatoes and have no heart disease. While in the US, where many people eat hamburgers every day, ice cream, cheese cake, bacon and eggs, canola and olive oil, guacamole, there's an elevated risk of heart disease.
So are these South Americans also disease free in every way?
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Sure, there's also some recent research that suggests it is not cholesterol that causes clogged arteries but the SHAPE of the LDL carrier which is adversely affected by high levels of carbs in the diet...
Anyway, I'd say the science is far from settled and no one is justified in making absolute statements on this subject....
There are populations of South Americans who live entirely on Sweet Potatoes and have no heart disease. While in the US, where many people eat hamburgers every day, ice cream, cheese cake, bacon and eggs, canola and olive oil, guacamole, there's an elevated risk of heart disease.
And on the other side we have the Inuit Paradox...
http://www.naturalnews.com/022868.html
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^Evidence.
Diets with fats produce more of the bad cholesterol than diets without.
^Assumption.
All fats are the same? No other factors could be causing an increase in bad cholesterol?
If you want your level to stay 150 or less, you have to cut fat out of your diet. Then your risk will be zero.
^You don't say what percentage of fat this population with a cholesterol level below 150 mg is eating. Are they really eating no fat?
Quoting Gary Taubes WWGF- Among the non-Westernized populations that have been well studied, quite a few that were exclusively meat eaters, or meat and fish eaters- the Inuits are and example, as are the Maasai- suffered little of no cancer (or heart disease, diabetes, or obesity). This suggests that meat eating is not a cause of these diseases.
from page 170
He is talking about meat - not fat in this case, but elsewhere he mentioned that they perfer the fatty cuts of meat.
There was a study in rural China and one on a town in Massachusetts, then there's a population of indigenous in South America who eat nothing but Sweet potatoes. These people maintain a cholesterol level below 150 mg a day and heart disease is not in their populations. They do not eat meat and rely on plants to supply nutrients. By maintaining this fat free, plant based lifestyle throughout their lives, they can prevent heart disease from ever occurring. Keep in mind, though, some plants have too much fat, like olives, avocados, coconuts, and nuts. So, not every plant is in the diet, but the diet consists of food from plants like wholes grains, leafy greens, and beans.
I know this is a wikipedia link but it briefly explains what the China Study is.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_China_Study_(book)
Of course there are plenty of Chinese who haven't any dietary restrictions and eat all sorts of animal products and other fattening foods. That hasn't been contradicted.
I have been spending some time in the sun each day and eating Wasa crispy bread made from whole grains. Wasa is a great alternative to bread. It contains no fat of any kind.
So are these South Americans also disease free in every way?
The people in question are Papau Highlanders in New Guinea. I was thinking they are in South America but looked it up and realize it's in Melanesia. They are, unfortunately not disease free because their culture revolves around smoking and this affects their lungs. They have lung disorders. It has been noted though, they smoke and do not have heart disease so why is smoking associated with heart disease? The Papau Highlanders who are in their sixties who have undergone studies have no signs of coronary artery disease.
GoonSquad, it's because the Inuits have a diet high in Omega 3s but it's even harder for most Americans to eat a diet of seal meat than it is for them to eat whole grains and vegetables. Blubber from Seals and Whales are not quite the same as the kind from pigs and cattle, the Omega Sixes.
And the problem with low fat/low cholesterol diets is they don't lower cholesterol enough. This is why CVD continues. It has to be a no fat/ no cholesterol diet.
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Okay, so these guys don't eat meat. But they also don't eat anything that is not a sweet potato according to you. How do we know the secret to their fantastic health is not the result of not eating something else?
Maybe their secret is in the wonderful synergistic effects of smoking while eating sweet potatoes!
I'm betting these guys don't watch Jersey Shore either... How does that affect heart health?
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The Inuit study and your sweet potato people make me marvel at the omnivorous adaptability of humans.
If we can thrive at either end of the nutritional spectrum...
I think everyone should be looking and what both these groups are not eating that the rest of us are--things like vegetable oils, refined sugar, and modern, manipulated cereal grains.
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Well you know, there are plants in the ocean too. And along the tides and inside the tidal pools. However, there isn't an abundance of land mammals near the ocean. Yes, we are omnivores but we are better adapted to certain foods.
That is exactly my point. Most of what people living in the western parts of the world eat is bad for their internal organs and arteries.
