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20 Jan 2014, 8:42 am

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of cause I would those rednecks don't look like their starving to me do they now , those vaginas (no offense to vaginas :wink: ) need to hide behind their guns. Perhaps Mike can get their licence plate and meet these guys down a dark alley.


They are rednecks. He'd still get shot.

Now sure, it's easy to hunt deer, turkey, coon, and duck, but it takes balls of steel to hunt boar. You have to do that from the ground and boars attack. It usually spots you first. It's pretty common to get hurt by the boar if you miss. I'm sure you think that's wonderful and all, and I don't care one way or the other about it because I think it's stupid to go kill it when they sell better tasting pork at Save More, but some guys like it. I also cannot stand venison (deer). Something about it is just wrong. It's not real meat it seems like.

As for hiding behind their guns, I know quite a few bow hunters. Is that any better in your mind? They use a bow? Or had you rather them just wrestle it to the ground and rip its heart out with their teeth, because nobody is going to do that because it's not a relaxing sport that way.

How much do you know about actual hunting? For real. This is a typical day deer hunting. Get up at 300 and drink coffee. Put coffee in a thermos. Put on your cammo. Start the truck to let it defrost. Check the guns, check the ammo. Put that in the truck. Pack a lunch and put that in the truck. Double check the deer stand and the light thats in the bed of the truck. Get in the truck. Drive 45 minutes to where you are hunting. Haul out the deer stand. Set it up. Shine the light on it to make sure it will hold you. Climb up it to make sure. Come back down. Go get the rest of your s**t out of the truck and take it to the deer stand. Walk around and spray that stuff while looking for tracks, scat and the tree rubbing thing. If you aren't satisfied that it's still a good spot, move everything. Once you get things where you want them, cause the buck ain't been through there yet, climb in the deer stand. Pour some coffee and get your gun. Cuss like hell cause you forgot to put your phone on vibrate. Tell your wife that yes you got there ok, shut the hell up and don't call back unless somebody is dead. Drink the coffee. Drink more coffee. Climb down and walk 50 yards away to pee. Climb back up. Sit. Sit some more. Think about eating something but the suns not up yet so you don't. Sit. Then sit more. Then shift a little bit and still sit. See something. Wait. Wait a little longer. Have to suddenly cough but DO NOT DO IT because you see something. Watch the buck through the sight of the gun until it gets close. Aim good cause you only got one chance. Pull the trigger. If you miss it, cuss like a Motherf***er. Open a beer that you brought just for that reason. If you hit it, yell "HELL YEAH!" and jump down and run over there to it. Make sure it's dead. If it's not, shoot it again but not in the head cause if it's a good one you'll mount it. Move it around so it's sort of sitting up and you can lean it's head against you and hold your phone up and take a picture of you and the deer. Take a few more of it. Field dress it. (You don't want me to go into this, trust me). Carry it back to your truck. Put it in the back. Go get all your s**t from the stand, unless of course you think there may be another one, then you repeat all that crap from before. Load everything up. Stop by the deer processing place. Take it in. Talk about how you got it. Ask them for the head. Take the head to the taxidermist. Be proud and show it to him. Tell him how you want it mounted. Go home. Shower. Eat whatever your ole lady cooked. During dinner talk about the hunting in detail. Never tell it like it is. Make it exciting. Drink some beer. Go to bed.

If you think that the dude with the gun in the tree stand is a vagina for not wresteling the deer to the ground and killing it with his bare hands, remember this. He's very capable of doing the exact same thing to a person and not a deer. He probably has a relative who has done that.

The same way that chalk (or now one of those dry erase markers) are almost an extension of an academic professor's arm, a gun is the extension of a redneck mans arm. Most of them have them. Most of them use them on animals fairly often, and on people sometimes. He will pull a gun on you at the drop of a hat. You think I'm exaggerating but I'm not. I've seen people shot at and shot over stupid ass s**t. It just happens. Both parties know it when the fight starts too. I've heard guys say "That Motherf***er's probably gonna shoot me but by God I'm gonna whoop his ass first". It's not just rhetoric.

Those of us who are raised around guns, to shoot guns, to defend ourselves with guns, to shoot at targets for fun, to shoot animals to eat most of and then decorate our houses with the rest are absolutely, 100% aware that at any moment we could get killed by one for saying/doing/looking at wrong, etc someone who has one on him. We are also aware that other people know they could be our victim if they ain't careful.

So, before you start with this whole vagina s**t, come down here and experience our culture first hand for a few weeks. It's a for real offer. I got room for you here, and I promise I won't let you get shot. Cause I'm aware of how NOT to get shot.


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20 Jan 2014, 10:27 am

OliveOilMom- that is the best, most accurate description of a day of deer hunting I have ever read ! ! You make me proud. :D


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20 Jan 2014, 11:27 am

As an engineer for environmental development and eco-freak people seem to automatically expect me to be against hunting. I got some harsh responses from other ecos, when telling my oppinion, that for a stabile flora and fauna everything needs to be in balance, and that because of the lack of wild hunters in middle eruope, all kind of animal populations, as deer, rabbits, boars, simply are in no natural balance.

What I do dislike are "funny-hunters". So alcohol while hunting and handling a weapon is simply of a No-go, as well that you should take care of shooting the animal propperly and chasing it down and not "Oh s**t, I did not hit it fully, and now I need to go after it. Boah, I am too lazy for that, let it die in pain."

When it comes to animals whose population are not balanced it is simply a necessity, and I see as well no prob about people enjoying it as an activity of concentration and spending time in nature, but it should be done with responsibility out of the weapon use and the respect of other creatures life.

When it comes to trophy hunting, specially when its about animals whose population are under balance: Idiots -.-

I dont know if I could hunt myself, I dont have a prob with taking an animals life in general, but if I caused any suffering by hurting it, and then could not find the animal again because of it escaping, I think that would bother me in a negative way.



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20 Jan 2014, 4:01 pm

man introduces theses foreign invaders, man decides to take them away, man makes animals extinct why would I trust man.?

for example on You Tube one of the breeders of lions says her canned hunts are "ethical " man will say anything for a $ and if repeated enough other men will believe it to :cry:


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20 Jan 2014, 4:06 pm

Well olive oil mom I know very little about hunting , how much do you know about sentience or pigeon intelligence,? these birds are war heros and this is the way we repay them ?

shoot with a camera or just shoot cans .


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20 Jan 2014, 4:59 pm

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Well olive oil mom I know very little about hunting , how much do you know about sentience or pigeon intelligence,? these birds are war heros and this is the way we repay them ?

shoot with a camera or just shoot cans .


I don't know anybody that shoots pigeons. I know people in the city who WANT to though, cause they s**t on your car. But I have never met anybody who has ever gone pigeon hunting. They would be laughed out of the county for that. Is this about pigeons? Because rednecks don't go hunt them. They hunt things they can either eat or hang the tail from their rear view mirror. I never think about birds. They are just there. They sound nice in the morning and in the summer, thats about it. Except for red roosters which I'm not even going to tell you about, but it's for a reason.

Also, about the lion thing. WHY would anybody hunt a lion? You don't eat lion. Who would eat a lion? It's probably nasty. I'm sure they look nice on the wall, but you can just as easy find one killed by something else and mount it. Now, that does sound hypocritical of me considering I have and wear fur, but those are raised to be clothing. Who would even wear a lion coat? That would be about the tackiest thing in the world. Nobody but Huggy Bear from Starsky and Hutch would wear a lion coat! There is no need to go kill some wild ass lion out in Africa just so you can say you did it. Go buy one already mounted and tell your friends you killed it. Nobody will know.

So, is the hunting thing with you REALLY about birds? Because turkey and duck are the only birds I know of that are hunted around here. And strangely enough turkey season doesn't even start till AFTER Thanksgiving so all those turkeys that somebody's husband shot were poached. Unless they just kill one that somebody raised, you can do that any time of the year.

Nobody in Alabama is killing pigeons for fun. That would just be entirely too p****. You are even expected to stop shooting squirrels after a certain age. Although the cheerleaders did raise money a few years back by having a squirrel hunt on somebody's land, but that was just to raise money. And get rid of all the damn squirrels.

So for real, whats your beef with hunting? No pun intended.


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20 Jan 2014, 5:00 pm

Marky9 wrote:
OliveOilMom- that is the best, most accurate description of a day of deer hunting I have ever read ! ! You make me proud. :D


Thank you. I'm a redneck. I know these things. ;-)


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20 Jan 2014, 5:18 pm

Oh, and before you start telling me how wonderful ducks are, since they are hunted, i got a story to tell you. My MIL has a place on the lake. Nice place, beautiful, two lots, kept like a golf course. There is a dock. We swim and boat and fish off the dock. My youngest daughter was there a couple years back and there was this neighbor boy who was sweet on her. Now this particular daughter is the one that loves every single animal in the world and could probably tame a tiger by putting a towel on it and baby talking it into submission, and then want to keep it in her room cause it's a "kitty"

So, her and the neighbor boy were all splashing around and floating around out there by the dock. There are shedloads of ducks there because we feed them. Or my MIL does, or whoever can get down there feeds them. She tells him "I want a duck" so this boy divebombs a duck and comes up with it. It's quacking like hell and wiggeling and they run in the house. I'm hot on their tails telling them DONT TAKE THAT GODDAMNED DUCK IN THE HOUSE! but they do. They take it in the back door to the laundry room. He holds it, she fills the laundry sink with water. Now by this time, all the kids are there. This is when everything goes directly to hell. He puts the duck in the little laundry sink of water she ran just for it. The duck goes f*****g ballistic. It was like a nuclear duck. It tried to fly, it bit, it s**t, it went all over that laundry room. There were maybe 6 people in there and we were all ducking down and covering, no pun intended. We thought it would stop in a second, BUT NO! The goddamned thing kept on and we kept hiding from it. Putting laundry over us. This went on for actually like five minutes. Thats a long goddamned time when you are locked in a small room with a crazy f*****g duck. Finally, the boy who caught it jumped up and grabbed it. My daughter yelled "YOU CANT TAKE IT BACK. HES MINE NOW" so he held it till we all got outside then he let it go and ran out. That duck stayed in the laundry room for close to twelve hours. The laundry room is where the fridge is that we put the beer in. It did not want to get in it's sink of water. What it wanted was to kill every human who came in there. It was kind of funny when my BIL went in there drunk to get a beer and nobody had warned him. He came out, upset, sweating, with a fake smile on his face because he thought he might have imagined it.

Eventually I took my daughter to the store to get her a phone card and while we were gone my husband made that boy take the duck back to the lake where it belonged.

During the time it was in the house, it drew blood from at least four people. Except my daughter. For some reason only she could get near it.

Thats why people shoot ducks.


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20 Jan 2014, 5:26 pm

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of cause I would those rednecks don't look like their starving to me do they now , those vaginas (no offense to vaginas :wink: ) need to hide behind their guns. Perhaps Mike can get their licence plate and meet these guys down a dark alley.


One other thing. Nobody is hiding behind their guns. Deer don't even know what a rifle is pointed at them, but I'll tell you what, if one of those boys points it at a human, they are gonna call his name and make him look so he knows who shot them. Ain't no hiding to it son.


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21 Jan 2014, 5:22 pm

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aussiebloke wrote:
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of cause I would those rednecks don't look like their starving to me do they now , those vaginas (no offense to vaginas :wink: ) need to hide behind their guns. Perhaps Mike can get their licence plate and meet these guys down a dark alley.


One other thing. Nobody is hiding behind their guns. Deer don't even know what a rifle is pointed at them, but I'll tell you what, if one of those boys points it at a human, they are gonna call his name and make him look so he knows who shot them. Ain't no hiding to it son.


I think when he references "hiding behind their guns" he means it in the same way that people hide behind free speech, or hide behind children, or hide behind democracy and freedom, all to avoid responsibility. Of course, any hunter who isn't responsible probably is no good at hunting, and likely won't have the respect of other hunters. Also, I think he has a problem with violence for its own sake. Anyone who goes out of their way to shoot something, or puts themselves in situations where they need to shoot something, just to fulfill their need to kill, are sick people. I'll bet most hunters aren't psychotic like that, but regardless, people don't have to hunt in order to eat anymore, at least in a general sense. And he probably thinks them "vaginas" because real men don't have to be violent to be tough.
But the South is a different region. It's like asking someone in Florida to understand water rights in Arizona. Many people don't have the basis of reference to understand some of these differences.



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21 Jan 2014, 7:23 pm

If men who hunt are "vaginas" does that mean woman who hunt are dicks :?: This must mean that non hunters are hermaphrodites :scratch:


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21 Jan 2014, 8:18 pm

I guess it would have to mean something to that effect. Or that non-hunters have no genitals whatsoever.

Hey, that's a pretty good line :lol:



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21 Jan 2014, 8:50 pm

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Thats why people shoot ducks.


My dog once had a run in with a nasty turkey. Needles to say the turkey didn't last very long.


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21 Jan 2014, 8:50 pm

lmao if only I weren't vegetarian..


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22 Jan 2014, 12:34 am

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aussiebloke wrote:
Well olive oil mom I know very little about hunting , how much do you know about sentience or pigeon intelligence,? these birds are war heros and this is the way we repay them ?

shoot with a camera or just shoot cans .


I don't know anybody that shoots pigeons. I know people in the city who WANT to though, cause they sh** on your car. But I have never met anybody who has ever gone pigeon hunting. They would be laughed out of the county for that. Is this about pigeons? Because rednecks don't go hunt them. They hunt things they can either eat or hang the tail from their rear view mirror. I never think about birds. They are just there. They sound nice in the morning and in the summer, thats about it. Except for red roosters which I'm not even going to tell you about, but it's for a reason.

Also, about the lion thing. WHY would anybody hunt a lion? You don't eat lion. Who would eat a lion? It's probably nasty. I'm sure they look nice on the wall, but you can just as easy find one killed by something else and mount it. Now, that does sound hypocritical of me considering I have and wear fur, but those are raised to be clothing. Who would even wear a lion coat? That would be about the tackiest thing in the world. Nobody but Huggy Bear from Starsky and Hutch would wear a lion coat! There is no need to go kill some wild ass lion out in Africa just so you can say you did it. Go buy one already mounted and tell your friends you killed it. Nobody will know.

So, is the hunting thing with you REALLY about birds? Because turkey and duck are the only birds I know of that are hunted around here. And strangely enough turkey season doesn't even start till AFTER Thanksgiving so all those turkeys that somebody's husband shot were poached. Unless they just kill one that somebody raised, you can do that any time of the year.

Nobody in Alabama is killing pigeons for fun. That would just be entirely too p****. You are even expected to stop shooting squirrels after a certain age. Although the cheerleaders did raise money a few years back by having a squirrel hunt on somebody's land, but that was just to raise money. And get rid of all the damn squirrels.

So for real, whats your beef with hunting? No pun intended.


I used to shoot squirrels at my grandparents place occasionally for pest control. Allegedly, they would steal food from the bird feeders and chew up the wires underneath the hood of my grandpa's truck. :P Looking back though, it seemed kind of wasteful since I never ate them or even skinned them. If I were to hunt squirrels nowadays, I wouldn't let them go to waste like that.