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17 May 2014, 9:21 am

Any secrets or tips on how to 'look' like you have had 9 hours sleep when in reality you have had very little sleep?

Women can wear makeup to hide sleep deprivation but us men can't :(



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17 May 2014, 11:48 am

While you might not really be able to hide it, being hydrated really helps! I've found that eye-drops really help brighten and refresh your eyes. Drink plenty of water and/or green tea. Wear light colours to brighten up. A short jog or easy exercise can perk you up too.

Hope that helps and that you can get some rest soon - there's no substitute for sleep! :coffee:


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17 May 2014, 12:47 pm

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While you might not really be able to hide it, being hydrated really helps! I've found that eye-drops really help brighten and refresh your eyes. Drink plenty of water and/or green tea. Wear light colours to brighten up. A short jog or easy exercise can perk you up too.

Hope that helps and that you can get some rest soon - there's no substitute for sleep! :coffee:


Women can hide it with makeup though......


Here is a list of possible solutions to hide a bad nights sleep and answer me if you agree with these lab pet


Fake tanning cream
Under eye cream
Healthy diet during the day



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17 May 2014, 1:22 pm

Jamesy wrote:
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While you might not really be able to hide it, being hydrated really helps! I've found that eye-drops really help brighten and refresh your eyes. Drink plenty of water and/or green tea. Wear light colours to brighten up. A short jog or easy exercise can perk you up too.

Hope that helps and that you can get some rest soon - there's no substitute for sleep! :coffee:


Women can hide it with makeup though......


Here is a list of possible solutions to hide a bad nights sleep and answer me if you agree with these lab pet


Fake tanning cream
Under eye cream
Healthy diet during the day


Hah hah, yes - I am female and if you were too then I might have suggested mint-green eye-shadow. But point taken :)
Your list of possible solutions seems feasible, except I wouldn't use fake tanning cream - it just adds dark shadows and always appears fakey. Even a cool damp face cloth to liven you up. Jamesy, I do hope you're OK and not that tired. Just one nights sleep and you'll feel much better, I'm sure.


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17 May 2014, 1:30 pm

My aspergers makes it harder to drift of to sleep lab pet :(

Apparently sleeping difficulties are a feature of AS



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17 May 2014, 1:33 pm

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My aspergers makes it harder to drift of to sleep lab pet :(

Apparently sleeping difficulties are a feature of AS


Yep...I know. Apart from looking well-rested, insomnia can be serious. Like many Aspies, I'm not really a good sleeper, so I do know how hard insomnia can be. As a temporary fix, maybe your GP could help? Hope you're feeling better soon.


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17 May 2014, 1:53 pm

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My aspergers makes it harder to drift of to sleep lab pet :(

Apparently sleeping difficulties are a feature of AS


Yep...I know. Apart from looking well-rested, insomnia can be serious. Like many Aspies, I'm not really a good sleeper, so I do know how hard insomnia can be. As a temporary fix, maybe your GP could help? Hope you're feeling better soon.



My mom told me the reason why i find it harder to fall asleep is because I actually need 'less sleep'.

Your thoughts on that lab pet?



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17 May 2014, 2:18 pm

Jamesy wrote:
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Jamesy wrote:
My aspergers makes it harder to drift of to sleep lab pet :(

Apparently sleeping difficulties are a feature of AS


Yep...I know. Apart from looking well-rested, insomnia can be serious. Like many Aspies, I'm not really a good sleeper, so I do know how hard insomnia can be. As a temporary fix, maybe your GP could help? Hope you're feeling better soon.



My mom told me the reason why i find it harder to fall asleep is because I actually need 'less sleep'.

Your thoughts on that lab pet?


If you needed less sleep you wouldn't have physical evidence of not getting enough sleep...aside from hiding it, it might be a good idea to seek out treatment for the sleep issues and find a way to get enough sleep. Easier said than done, I have trouble sleeping to I always try and drink relaxing tea before bed or I might take my trazodone....I still don't get enough sleep a lot of times though. And I am female but I don't wear make up so it can look apparent when I haven't gotten sleep I guess I just don't really care. My brother wears make up so I am sure he can cover it up when he looks tired, but I understand most guys don't wear make up.


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17 May 2014, 2:21 pm

As I understand, our circadian rhythm is not as robust as that of our neurotypical counterparts. Certainly that we are anxiety prone is another factor.

For me, I can inadvertently 'forget' normal sleep cues. If I am involved in something, I might 'forget' that it is night. And I wake easily, especially if stressed. I think your mum is right in that we may not actually need as much sleep. Nevertheless, we do need sleep like everything else and why maintaining a sleep schedule is so important. I know that schedule disturbances can quickly tip the balance, making sleep hard.

I cannot know what might work for you, but here's some ideas that help me and other Aspies.

-Weighted blanket really helps! Check online (yes, they're expensive) or you might fashion your own.
-Try to maintain a routine sleep schedule, even if you're not sleeping, at least try - getting back on track helps
-Don't take naps during the day - you'll not sleep at night
-No caffeine past noon
-Quiet activities before bedtime (not electronics like tv or gaming though)
-If you just cannot sleep, don't lie in bed, but instead get up, go to another room, and read or something 'light' - this is so you associate your bed only with sleep
-Total darkness in your room - use heavy dark curtains
-I've used a metronome to relax, but you might like white noise or something equivalent
-Melatonin helps, but in the UK you would need to ask your GP
-Try to avoid prescription sleep meds - while they may be appropriate and helpful, in the short-term, they don't do you any good long-term

Anyhow, hope all is better soon. Sometimes we all go through a temporary jag. An issue might be spring/summer with longer daylight hours.


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17 May 2014, 3:08 pm

Sweetleaf wrote:
Jamesy wrote:
LabPet wrote:
Jamesy wrote:
My aspergers makes it harder to drift of to sleep lab pet :(

Apparently sleeping difficulties are a feature of AS


Yep...I know. Apart from looking well-rested, insomnia can be serious. Like many Aspies, I'm not really a good sleeper, so I do know how hard insomnia can be. As a temporary fix, maybe your GP could help? Hope you're feeling better soon.



My mom told me the reason why i find it harder to fall asleep is because I actually need 'less sleep'.

Your thoughts on that lab pet?


If you needed less sleep you wouldn't have physical evidence of not getting enough sleep...aside from hiding it, it might be a good idea to seek out treatment for the sleep issues and find a way to get enough sleep. Easier said than done, I have trouble sleeping to I always try and drink relaxing tea before bed or I might take my trazodone....I still don't get enough sleep a lot of times though. And I am female but I don't wear make up so it can look apparent when I haven't gotten sleep I guess I just don't really care. My brother wears make up so I am sure he can cover it up when he looks tired, but I understand most guys don't wear make up.




Why is that when your younger like say aged 17 is it easier to look refreshed and rested even after a terrible nights sleep? I noticed even aged 20/21 I could get away with sleeping and looking rested yet aged 24 I can't? :?

These days I am much thinner though and only weigh like 140 at 5ft7 yet aged 20 I weighed near 175 pounds. Perhaps me being thinner might add to 'tired and haggard' look.



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17 May 2014, 3:12 pm

^ Yes, good question. Well, benzodiazepams do work, but only temporarily! I guess the answer is because sleep is a complex process with many overlapping factors.


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17 May 2014, 3:15 pm

Sweetleaf wrote:
Jamesy wrote:
LabPet wrote:
Jamesy wrote:
My aspergers makes it harder to drift of to sleep lab pet :(

Apparently sleeping difficulties are a feature of AS


Yep...I know. Apart from looking well-rested, insomnia can be serious. Like many Aspies, I'm not really a good sleeper, so I do know how hard insomnia can be. As a temporary fix, maybe your GP could help? Hope you're feeling better soon.



My mom told me the reason why i find it harder to fall asleep is because I actually need 'less sleep'.

Your thoughts on that lab pet?


If you needed less sleep you wouldn't have physical evidence of not getting enough sleep...aside from hiding it, it might be a good idea to seek out treatment for the sleep issues and find a way to get enough sleep. Easier said than done, I have trouble sleeping to I always try and drink relaxing tea before bed or I might take my trazodone....I still don't get enough sleep a lot of times though. And I am female but I don't wear make up so it can look apparent when I haven't gotten sleep I guess I just don't really care. My brother wears make up so I am sure he can cover it up when he looks tired, but I understand most guys don't wear make up.






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Why is that when your younger like say aged 17 is it easier to look refreshed and rested even after a terrible nights sleep? I noticed even aged 20/21 I could get away with sleeping only 3 hours and looking rested yet aged 24 I can't? :?

These days I am much thinner though and only weigh like 140 at 5ft7 yet aged 20 I weighed near 175 pounds. Perhaps me being thinner might add to 'tired and haggard' look.