16 Aug 2017, 11:11 am
16 Aug 2017, 11:26 am
kraftiekortie wrote:
You have kids, Ferris?
Yes, the grown up variety now
16 Aug 2017, 11:28 am
16 Aug 2017, 11:30 am
Kraftie , I really don't want to discuss it here , if you generally interested send me a P.M. 
16 Aug 2017, 11:41 am
16 Aug 2017, 11:43 am
kraftiekortie wrote:
Sorry, Ferris.
Nothing to apologise for Kraftie , just rather not discuss it here
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16 Aug 2017, 12:05 pm
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I am having a very hard time right now. Any advice would be appreciated 
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.The only advice I can offer is that my experiences got worse when I stopped getting adequate sleep , I blame a lot of my irrational thoughts , paranoia on sleep deprivation and lots of anxiety. The more tired I am the less insight - so to speak.
Even though you may not feel tired , you mind needs a rest , you may not be getting the right sleep either ( I dont remember the last time I've felt rested after waking up ). I suggest you try to switch off all stimuli way before you go to bed ( TV , Internet ) , perhaps try meditation or mindfulness , you should speak to you mum or dad about getting a Dr to perhaps prescribe something to help you sleep for a few days at least , sometimes a few nights of good rest is all I need. Hope this helps
Also they could be another reason for this but it may be a lot better for you to speak to a woman about it as I have no personal experience being a man, but woman can sometimes get irrational once a month ( and I'm not blaming your hormones but it might be a catalyst , maybe worth talking to a woman about it ? , might not be relevant at all?)
Thanks for the advice. I wish I could actually go to sleep- I slept badly again last night
. I do seem more logical and rational now that I am not in bed trying to go to sleep, however.I have had a terrible experience talking to women psychologists, so I vowed to not go back to that again. I told my mom to specifically get a male psychologists because I can't stand the emotional, stupid guessing games of women psychologists. I don't think hormones really has much to do with it, but it is possible. You can tell when I have an obsession and I don't get the compulsion/reassurance right away. It's almost like the compulsion is my drug and if I don't get it, I get depressed, irritable, miserable to be around, and tired. If I do, then I am back to my normal happy self. It's just hard to dismiss these thoughts when I'm anxious. Thank you for your suggestion, though. I hope you have a nice day.
Sleep can be a big problem and can be a catch 22 situation especially when you start worrying about not getting enough sleep
I didn't mean speak to a woman psychologist , I meant talk to woman here about OCD and if things got worse once a month , it was just a theory
, and if you found a pattern about when you felt worse it might help explain things - although to be honest knowing something doesn't always help but it might , I don't want to come across as patronizing but I had a teenager daughter once and have been around woman all my life. When you mean the compulsion - do you mean the ability to work out every possibility in your mind why it's not true?
I really don't know what helpful advice I can give as knowing how my mind works it doesn't really help - but we are all here to chat if that helps
P.S. Aliens don't exist ( at least the type your thinking about ) , I've had 35 years of anxious thoughts and there's no proof
If it helps I have had 'delusions' about everyone being aliens and me being the last human , it turned out that I'm more alien than everyone else To me all this suggests is that you have a very creative mind which could be used for very useful things if you manage to channel it the right way - writer , artist , musician etc ( I sometimes play guitar for hours as my mind doesn't think about anything but the music - ultimate escapism for me )
Ah, I didn't know what you meant. I speak to my mom about my OCD, but not other people on here. I'm glad you're all here to chat and thank you for your advice. I understand what you mean now, but I truly don't think it has anything to do with what you are talking about. Before OCD, I almost never cried or acted irritable much at all, to be honest. There could be some correlation, but I don't think it has a lot to do with my age. I'm open to talking to anyone here about my OCD, though
.When I talk about the compulsion, I mean the resisting of my thought and reassurance that I don't have to worry about anything- it's just OCD gone wild or something like that
. I'll tell my mom everything, and if she doesn't provide the reassurance I want, then I go into the state of unhappiness and irritably. As soon as I get my reassurance, however, I feel so good and I go back to my normal "childhood" self. It's the best feeling I've ever experienced, because not only do I feel good, but I don't have to worry anymore (until my next obsession). I know what you mean- I don't think there is that kind of aliens out there. It's more the fact I actually thought there were and I was scared I had the thought that aliens were "communicating with me." I now kind of realize that the thought is delusional, and I don't think aliens are inserting thoughts into my head or anything. I was/am still scared because I wouldn't be having this thought and "believing" it if I were sane. I jeep on asking myself over and over if I believe that thought, and I tell myself I don't, but then there is a twinge of doubt after I say that which worries me to death. I'll stop now- this post is quite long lol.
16 Aug 2017, 1:40 pm
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Ah, I didn't know what you meant. I speak to my mom about my OCD, but not other people on here. I'm glad you're all here to chat and thank you for your advice. I understand what you mean now, but I truly don't think it has anything to do with what you are talking about. Before OCD, I almost never cried or acted irritable much at all, to be honest. There could be some correlation, but I don't think it has a lot to do with my age. I'm open to talking to anyone here about my OCD, though
.When I talk about the compulsion, I mean the resisting of my thought and reassurance that I don't have to worry about anything- it's just OCD gone wild or something like that
. I'll tell my mom everything, and if she doesn't provide the reassurance I want, then I go into the state of unhappiness and irritably. As soon as I get my reassurance, however, I feel so good and I go back to my normal "childhood" self. It's the best feeling I've ever experienced, because not only do I feel good, but I don't have to worry anymore (until my next obsession). I know what you mean- I don't think there is that kind of aliens out there. It's more the fact I actually thought there were and I was scared I had the thought that aliens were "communicating with me." I now kind of realize that the thought is delusional, and I don't think aliens are inserting thoughts into my head or anything. I was/am still scared because I wouldn't be having this thought and "believing" it if I were sane. I jeep on asking myself over and over if I believe that thought, and I tell myself I don't, but then there is a twinge of doubt after I say that which worries me to death. I'll stop now- this post is quite long lol.
I'm glad you knew what I was talking about as quite frankly it was very cringeworthy trying to explain without explaining , I was really hoping someone else would chime in and take over
Does your mum have OCD? Incidentally she sounds like a great mum.
I know there is nothing I can say to you ease your obsessional thinking except that - it's obsessional thinking. You know far more about it than me except I may have been doing it longer
The following is just an idea that might help , it's what I do and it doesn't always help but may help you. I may not even have OCD so it maybe complete balderdash.
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When I get to the point where there is that twinge of doubt I try to analyze why I am doubting it ( apart from the OCD reason ) , am I feeling a little more depressed than normal , am I more anxious than normal , did something happen that upset me , did I read or watch something on TV that struck a chord, all these things can affect my thought patterns so instead of jumping to the worst conclusion ( which will happen ) , I try and pinpoint if something happened to me that's affected my thinking and is clouding my judgement.
) , I try and pinpoint if something happened to me that's affected my thinking and is clouding my judgement.16 Aug 2017, 2:23 pm
16 Aug 2017, 2:52 pm
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Ferris, thank you for what you shared, as well. I will post my sensory difficulties, as soon as I am able to return. If I may add - some of the sensory experiences I have, are positive in nature, and some can be euphoric, at that.
I wonder if any of you experience Synesthesia of any type(s). I experience a few, and some are profound. I, also experience Autonomous Sensory Meridian Response. Not to get too off topic, though, of course. But, my thought is that, you can use these traits to your advantage. For example, particular music and various combinations of sounds can put me into a trance. I can completely escape from reality when in a certain state, which in my case results from sound. Music and certain auditory stimuli can be extremely therapeutic for me. Just thought I'd put it out there, in case you might find the same...
~Hope you are having a nice day/evening (despite the difficult aspects mentioned).
Looking forward to your experiences especially the positive side of it. I've never experienced Synesthesia and I had to google ASMR and although I have experienced it , it was a long time ago and always when I was on drugs.
Music can be great therapy but I have to be in the right mood.
I'm having guests tomorrow so anxiety is high but tomorrow night will be all good again.
Hope you having a good day/evening/night too
16 Aug 2017, 5:48 pm
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16 Aug 2017, 6:21 pm
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Ah, I didn't know what you meant. I speak to my mom about my OCD, but not other people on here. I'm glad you're all here to chat and thank you for your advice. I understand what you mean now, but I truly don't think it has anything to do with what you are talking about. Before OCD, I almost never cried or acted irritable much at all, to be honest. There could be some correlation, but I don't think it has a lot to do with my age. I'm open to talking to anyone here about my OCD, though
.When I talk about the compulsion, I mean the resisting of my thought and reassurance that I don't have to worry about anything- it's just OCD gone wild or something like that
. I'll tell my mom everything, and if she doesn't provide the reassurance I want, then I go into the state of unhappiness and irritably. As soon as I get my reassurance, however, I feel so good and I go back to my normal "childhood" self. It's the best feeling I've ever experienced, because not only do I feel good, but I don't have to worry anymore (until my next obsession). I know what you mean- I don't think there is that kind of aliens out there. It's more the fact I actually thought there were and I was scared I had the thought that aliens were "communicating with me." I now kind of realize that the thought is delusional, and I don't think aliens are inserting thoughts into my head or anything. I was/am still scared because I wouldn't be having this thought and "believing" it if I were sane. I jeep on asking myself over and over if I believe that thought, and I tell myself I don't, but then there is a twinge of doubt after I say that which worries me to death. I'll stop now- this post is quite long lol.
I'm glad you knew what I was talking about as quite frankly it was very cringeworthy trying to explain without explaining , I was really hoping someone else would chime in and take over
Does your mum have OCD? Incidentally she sounds like a great mum.
I know there is nothing I can say to you ease your obsessional thinking except that - it's obsessional thinking. You know far more about it than me except I may have been doing it longer
The following is just an idea that might help , it's what I do and it doesn't always help but may help you. I may not even have OCD so it maybe complete balderdash.
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When I get to the point where there is that twinge of doubt I try to analyze why I am doubting it ( apart from the OCD reason ) , am I feeling a little more depressed than normal , am I more anxious than normal , did something happen that upset me , did I read or watch something on TV that struck a chord, all these things can affect my thought patterns so instead of jumping to the worst conclusion ( which will happen ) , I try and pinpoint if something happened to me that's affected my thinking and is clouding my judgement.
) , I try and pinpoint if something happened to me that's affected my thinking and is clouding my judgement.My mom is pretty great
. She doesn't have OCD or any conditions herself, but her mom has OCD/ADHD and her grandfather had OCD as well. She is the one that takes me to therapy, so she is pretty well educated on what to do with me lol.Don't worry about explaining what you meant- I got it loud and clear
. Too bad I'm really averse to the concept of gender roles. I'm not transgender or anything, but when you have an extreme of the male brain (autism) and a female body, you are probably going to side with your brain .You have much more experience than I do. Thank you for that advice on the "twinge of doubt"- it's quite useful. If you don't have OCD, then nobody does
! I sometimes try to find the reasons behind these thoughts, but sometimes there isn't a reason. Thank you for all your support today
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16 Aug 2017, 6:43 pm
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Various musings regarding the current discussions (and, Hello : )) -
I can say that if I am sleep deprived, my mind can play all sorts of wacky tricks on me. I've never experienced thoughts of aliens, or the like, but, I can experience visual and auditory hallucinations. Another thing that I've noticed is that I can have very exaggerated or irrational thoughts as the result of sleep deprivation, and I become far more sensitive to lights, sounds, other people's input, other's difficulties they might be experiencing. I can often lose the ability to manage the intensity of my feelings., at which point, I might (irrationally) sense that I am completely transparent, as if the entire world can see inside me/my mind. When I am well rested, I am far more rational and grounded. I can decipher between things, situations, draw less irrational conclusions, and so on.
Sleep is one of the most effective tools in my arsenal, at keeping some of the aforementioned at bay. I have, also found EEG therapy to be extremely effective in eliminating some of my imbalances related to thoughts (and emotions).
I know, with regard to myself, I have to refrain from various social and emotional interactions, when I am experiencing a difficult period. Also, as hard as it can be to disipline myself, at times, I have to take breaks from researching various topics, as I am aware they can perpetuate my anxiety. The bottom line for me, is taking control of my mind, as well as I am able. Some things are out of my control, however, some things I can keep to a minimum, or, even, keep at bay.
Ferris, thank you for what you shared, as well. I will post my sensory difficulties, as soon as I am able to return. If I may add - some of the sensory experiences I have, are positive in nature, and some can be euphoric, at that.
I wonder if any of you experience Synesthesia of any type(s). I experience a few, and some are profound. I, also experience Autonomous Sensory Meridian Response. Not to get too off topic, though, of course. But, my thought is that, you can use these traits to your advantage. For example, particular music and various combinations of sounds can put me into a trance. I can completely escape from reality when in a certain state, which in my case results from sound. Music and certain auditory stimuli can be extremely therapeutic for me. Just thought I'd put it out there, in case you might find the same...
~Hope you are having a nice day/evening (despite the difficult aspects mentioned).
SSF, I am keeping you in my thoughts, and I think returning to your usual environment and a regular rhythm, of which you are accustomed to, will help you, tremendously (speaking from my own experience). Best to you, SSF. Well, best to all of you, of course. : )
I can say that if I am sleep deprived, my mind can play all sorts of wacky tricks on me. I've never experienced thoughts of aliens, or the like, but, I can experience visual and auditory hallucinations. Another thing that I've noticed is that I can have very exaggerated or irrational thoughts as the result of sleep deprivation, and I become far more sensitive to lights, sounds, other people's input, other's difficulties they might be experiencing. I can often lose the ability to manage the intensity of my feelings., at which point, I might (irrationally) sense that I am completely transparent, as if the entire world can see inside me/my mind. When I am well rested, I am far more rational and grounded. I can decipher between things, situations, draw less irrational conclusions, and so on.
Sleep is one of the most effective tools in my arsenal, at keeping some of the aforementioned at bay. I have, also found EEG therapy to be extremely effective in eliminating some of my imbalances related to thoughts (and emotions).
I know, with regard to myself, I have to refrain from various social and emotional interactions, when I am experiencing a difficult period. Also, as hard as it can be to disipline myself, at times, I have to take breaks from researching various topics, as I am aware they can perpetuate my anxiety. The bottom line for me, is taking control of my mind, as well as I am able. Some things are out of my control, however, some things I can keep to a minimum, or, even, keep at bay.
Ferris, thank you for what you shared, as well. I will post my sensory difficulties, as soon as I am able to return. If I may add - some of the sensory experiences I have, are positive in nature, and some can be euphoric, at that.
I wonder if any of you experience Synesthesia of any type(s). I experience a few, and some are profound. I, also experience Autonomous Sensory Meridian Response. Not to get too off topic, though, of course. But, my thought is that, you can use these traits to your advantage. For example, particular music and various combinations of sounds can put me into a trance. I can completely escape from reality when in a certain state, which in my case results from sound. Music and certain auditory stimuli can be extremely therapeutic for me. Just thought I'd put it out there, in case you might find the same...
~Hope you are having a nice day/evening (despite the difficult aspects mentioned).
SSF, I am keeping you in my thoughts, and I think returning to your usual environment and a regular rhythm, of which you are accustomed to, will help you, tremendously (speaking from my own experience). Best to you, SSF. Well, best to all of you, of course. : )
Thank you so much for replying, Britte. Today and last night have been really tough days. I can't wait to get home. I had one good sleep so far since the end of July, and even then I woke up multiple times throughout the night. I am definitely laying off the electronics tonight as well. I feel like I've gone delusional and I'm slowly losing insight and becoming schizophreni.
Music is very therapeutic for me as well. Whilst I do not experience synesthesia (unless you count visualizing the months of the year and the days of the week in certain shapes- which isn't synesthesia, I know) but music is amazing for me. I love listening to the same song over and over while rocking in my rocking chair. I love doing that when I am stressed from school (which is all the time) and I find it extremely relaxing.
I am doing better now- AGT is on soon! I hope you are having a nice day as well. Thank you for the best wishes- I hope the same for you as well
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